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  1. Are you talking about the ZX1000? If so - isn't there different ergonomics between the Ninja 1000 and the H2SX? I thought they were a very different bike, not just the weight/supercharger. Unfortunately https://cycle-ergo.com/ doesn't show the H2SX, but from my understanding the H2SX would be close to the VFR's natural seating position where the Ninja 1000 is more upright. (About half the forward lean angle as that of the VFR)? The H2 is so neat. Take away the supercharger (aka bring the price down to what I can afford, because the supercharger isn't really something I'd want - I'd probably lose my license 😉 ) and it'd be a serious contender. Not only with ergonomics, but it also has the centre stand as well - what would be a true VFR replacement in my books - albeit without having seen one yet. The Ninja 1000 (ZX1000 I believe) was designed with almost the opposite in mind. ie: It's as though when Honda and Triumph said sports tourer they said let's take the following from each category: Sports Handling Tourer Centre Stand A little more Weight (due to center stand) Inbetween Seating position / Ergonomics (Comfortable but sporty) Whereas when they built the Ninja 1000 and Suzuki they did a negative image: Sports: Weight (Aka remove center stand) Tourer More upright seating position Adjustable windshield. It's almost as though the designers of the Kawa/Suzuki 'Sports Tourers' still wanted to mix sports and tourer together but did exactly the opposite of what the previous sport tourer engineers originally did. (With the exception to the H2SX which seems to be more towards a pure/original 'sports tourer' in my books). Although it seems many people who own the Ninja 1000 are ex-VFR riders and they love the 1000. The H2 definitely seems like a more natural progression though - I just can't afford the price tag. 😞 Still haven't committed yet. I've kinda been hanging out hoping that there'll be a rumour of a next Gen VFR model coming out or until I can save enough pennies for the H2SX. Somehow - I think that neither day may come yet.
  2. Maybe I need to move to be able to keep riding the bike I love! 😉
  3. Thanks for the suggestions guys. Doesn't look like we have much that comes close to the characteristics of the VFR. While I like the V4, it's more the handling of the bike that I prefer. (Lean angle, cornering characteristics etc more than the engine type). Looking through the suggestions on paper (mainly using cycle-ergo.com): The FJ-09 is a very upright bike. I haven't ridden on one, but I have on a MT-09 and I think it's almost sitting straight up like you're on a tourer as opposed to leaning forward like you're on a sports-tourer. The Ducati Supersports seems to have a lean angle similar to that of the CBR1000RR, etc - so seems to be more of a sports/race bike. Too forward for my aging body I'm afraid. (The VFR hit's the sweet spot). The Motus seems to be a little closer in regards to lean angle (at least according to cycle-ergo.com). I haven't seen one before, but may have to check this out. Likewise with the Aprilia Tuono. VTR??? They were discontinued before the VFR was weren't they? The BMW R1200RS appears to have a little more uprtight position than the others. (Back at 19° but still might be worth checking out). Thanks for the suggestions. From what I can tell, regardless of what bike I purchase, there's nothing out there that comes close to resembling the type of ride style that the VFR offered. (Except for other discontinued bikes such as the Sprint ST1050). I guess scooters and Adventure Tourers are where much of the market focus is going these days which at least for me is a real pity.
  4. Interested in new at this stage, and are just wondering what options are closest to what I've previously experienced on a VFR.
  5. What does someone who has ridden VFR's, wants to buy a new VFR but it's no longer an option move to? The Sprint and VFR appear to be the only two bikes in their class. The next thing remotely close to them that I have been able to find appears to be the GSXS-1000F or Ninja 1000, of both which have very different handling characteristics and seating positions. Beginning with a lean angle that is almost half of what the VFR's is. Have I missed some options along the lines? Does anyone have any suggestions / recommendations of what one should consider when buying a new VFR is no longer an option?
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