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  1. I have done pretty much what you're planning (front forks re-sprung, revalved, brake de-linked, CBR929 shock installed), but on a 5th gen, and have also changed the suspension and brakes on my VTR1000F. For the fork you could buy RT parts (specifically a compression Gold Valve which comes with a handy bag of shims) and work out your own shim stacks (RT provide some good guidance), and make up spacers as needed to suit the springs that you have. You can use PVC pipe for spacers, very easy to cut and cheap. As long as the springs you are using aren't too long (ie they stick out the top of the extended forks) then they'll be fine with the correct spacer. For the shock you could make up an extended clevis to offset the shorter shock, and try the standard spring first. Or...you could buy all the correct parts from Jamie Daugherty who will provide you with the specific bits to suit your weight and preferences. He modifies the shock itself to make it longer, and alters the shim stack as well, and provides a rider-specific spring. IMO his fork part pricing is the same or a little below RT, for very similar parts, and his modified shocks represent very good value. One thing that may help your bike turn in is raising the rear and/or dropping the front to steepen the geometry. You can slide a spacer between the shock clevis and the frame (up to 5mm is pretty common) which will drop the back wheel by around 25mm, and the forks can be slid up through the clamps by up to 10mm before any hard parts make contact. This will make the steering livelier and more eager to drop into bends without affecting high speed stability too much. However in the first instance I'd make sure that you were running tyres that aren't badly worn e.g. squared off at the middle, as that will have a big effect on turn in.
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    A Pair of 700s

    I still think 1986 was the high water mark for Honda colour schemes. Great pair of bikes.
  3. If by "winter projects" you mean projects to undertake during winter on a frozen lake with at least 3 feet of ice, then I'd say it would (just) be fine.
  4. Looking at the service manual it says to remove the sensor from the air cleaner housing, then temporarily connect the sensor and the vacuum hose. So the sensor is detached from the air cleaner but still connected electrically to the harness and to the intake vacuum, which means the FI system will be happy even though the airbox is off. Should have got a 5th gen!
  5. I have one of Jamie's CBR929 shocks. I think he uses an off the shelf Hyperco spring of a suitable diameter and rate, plus a custom aluminium spacer to get the length right.
  6. Naah, mix the Coke with bourbon, consume as needed until your eyesight fails and the old pipes look like new!
  7. The RaceTech products are a bit on the generic side, in that they are selling a spring of a certain length, rate and diameter that could fit a wide range of bikes with varying lengths of forks. You will need to do some calculations. If you've got the same RT instructions as me, the VFR fork has a type D fork cap. Put the springs and flat washers washers into the forks when fully extended, make sure the washers are sitting flat on top of the springs. Now measure down the inside from the top of the fork legs to the top of the washers, with the fork fully extended. Lets call that length A mm. Next grab your fork caps, and screw the preload adjuster to its minimum position (fully out). With the fork cap screwed onto the damper rod in its usual position with the locknut in place, hold the cupped washer against the underside of the locknut as it sits when assembled, and measure from the underside of the lip of the cap (the bit that bears on the very top edge of the fork tube) to the underside of the cupped washer. Lets call that length B mm. If you subtract A-B you will have the distance from the top of the uncompressed spring to the underside of the cupped washer, so with no preload that is the length of the spacer. But RT says you need 15mm of preload, so you need to add another 15mm to that length. I'm making the numbers up, but say length A (top of extended fork to top of washers on spring) is 200mm, and length B (from top of cap to underside of cupped washer) is 50mm, then the spacer to cut would be 200 - 50 + 15 = 165mm. If one of the spacers that you have is within say 0-5mm longer than the calculated length I would try those, otherwise grab a hacksaw and cut the supplied tube to the right length. Try hard to make the cut square to the tube, and finish any ragged edges with a file, then clean off any swarf so you don't contaminate the fork innards. Once you have the fork assembled back into the bike you'll be able to check the sag numbers, you're looking for something like 25-35mm. If you can't get into this range with the available adjustment in the preload adjuster, you might need to make a longer or shorter spacer, but at least you can swap out spacers with the forks in the bike.
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    Vfr meeting

    Is it OK if I photoshop myself in? I would have loved to be there!
  9. Have you checked continuity in the wires to the ECU? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  10. A MAP sensor problem could be just a bad/loose connector or damaged wire. The MAP sensor on the 5th gen is on the back of the airbox, before launching into parts replacement I'd suggest you just try unplugging and reconnecting the wire. The service manual shows a procedure for diagnosing whether the sensor is faulty. When the FI system detects a fault in a sensor like this, it defaults into a "limp home" mode that ignores the sensor. That will mean that the FI system won't be running at its optimum setting, so might run rich and make less power than usual. The MAP sensor is detecting the air pressure/vacuum in the intake system, so I would think when this malfunctions there would be significant effects.
  11. Marc it is great to see you posting on here. I've bought a few of your products (RF900 jet kit, ignition advancer and emulsion tubes, VFR800 shift star kit). I've been extremely impressed with every one of these, they have always been a considerable improvement on the OEM product. Coming off a Suzuki onto a well-worn '99 VFR800 (50k miles), the baggy transmission stood out like dogs balls. The shift star kit was a HUGE improvement, easy to fit and with no downsides. If anyone is unhappy with their stock transmission and on the fence about installing one, Just Do It.
  12. I never had this problem on my 83 VF750F, but the cam chain and tensioners were rubbish! I didn't keep it long enough (30000km) to develop any cam issues that I knew about, but I did have to get new chains and tensioners in that time. It is good to be able to see that Honda learned their lesson with later engines, the cams and buckets in both my 99 VFR800 and 97 VTR1000 look like new after 90 and 70,000km respectively. However, the camchain tensioners in the VTR are STILL RUBBISH!!! Installing manual tensioners was my first upgrade, more like an insurance down-payment.
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    These are the generic instructions for installing standard RaceTech Gold Valves for rebound. Using the online valving tool, the recommended valve stack for a 5th gen VFR with 80kg rider who preferred a soft set up is RH16 (5 x 0.15 x 17mm shims). I also did the same for a VTR1000F as I use that bike's rebound adjusters (I added 15kg to selected rider weight to offset the lighter bike in the calculation) and this recommended the RH17 shim stack (6 x 0.15 x 17mm shims) and 2 turns out for the rebound adjuster. Other RaceTech literature that I have suggests that for each 13.6kg or rider weight one would shift to the left or right of the recommended shim stack, so if you weigh 93.6kg, the VFR recommendation would be RH17 also. Both options recommended 0.92-0.93 kg/mm springs with 15mm of preload. Fork oil height recommended was different for the VFR (120mm) and VTR (140mm) presumably due to the greater volume of the fork cap mechanism on the VTR which would reduce the available air-gap.
  14. Version 2

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    RaceTech Suspension Bible
  15. I love your bike Hiro, you should be very proud. And I bet Mr Spencer was impressed! Great bike and a great rider. My 80's idol.
  16. From the album: Terry's V4s

    Bought some bent VTR forks to use as a source of rebound adjusters. A very easy and satisfying swap.
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    Orere Point

    From the album: Terry's V4s

    A nice scenic shot I think.
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    Fork rebuild time

    From the album: Terry's V4s

    Messing with the forks...again.
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    IMG 1020

    From the album: Terry's V4s

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    8th gen test ride

    From the album: Terry's V4s

    Got to test ride the new VFR, pretty good, but not worth swapping my 5th gen for.
  21. The last Gold Valve I installed was in my RF900 so I don't have access to specific instructions that relate to the VFR. However the RF instructions specified that a drilled bleed hole was only needed if there wasn't some other fixed bypass there already. So on the 5th gen the hole is needed on the compression valve but not on the rebound. If anyone has specific instructions for installing a Gold Valve for rebound I'd be interested to read what they say about this. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  22. Having read though the posts above, I think there is an error in the installation for the rebound valves, where there is talk of drilling a low speed bypass hole into the side of the Gold Valve. I am intimately familiar with the inside of the 5th gen fork, and this definitely already has a bypass hole in it, basically oil passes through up through the hollow shaft and exits at right angles to the shaft. I have circled the hole in HS's image. If I am not mistaken it looks like the 6th gen compression valve also has the same set-up and I have circled that as well. So just a word of caution make sure that you need that drilled hole before you make it, otherwise you will end up with too little low speed compression damping. The 5th gen compression valve definitely needs to have the hole drilled through the valve body however.
  23. Terry

    Same nice road

    Outstanding picture and riding!
  24. 111 downloads

    Scanned instructions for the installation of Gold Valves for forks.
  25. Terry

    Shasta

    That is a beautiful photo. Looks a lot like Mt Taranaki where I come from.
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