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Random photoshop time! What we have here is essentially a 6th gen, CBR954 front fairing/forks/wheel and a Ducati 848/1*98 tail Achievable for something under $2k ontop of buying a Vtec Basically I'm bored and planning out what I would build when I suddenly come into money one day Under request from a few other bike enthusiasts to slim down the tail I went with an S1000RR, Sorry for the oversize, I ballsed up when saving it and don't wanna go back in just yet.. also it's red, and I threw in the A&A supercharger belt for funzies With this thread being called 'All Things Photochopped' I figured it was safe to drop them in here.. I may add/change a few more things but I don't want to make it too complex/impossibly custom [EDIT]: so.. I JUST realised that I put "V4 Gear Driven Cams" onto a 6th gen.. Makes about as much sense as the "V4 VTEC" sticker I have on my 5th

Worst crash I had was actually the day of my license training. So literally the first day I had ridden, passed all the initial skill training such as slalom, slow speed balance, emergency stops, figure 8's etc without issue. Crashed right near the end on the road due to loose gravel, poor visibility, trying to remember a set of 20 instructions for where to go and just inexperience.. not knowing what dangers to look for. Basically locked the front on the little bit of gravel and once it gripped the front wheel tucked under and the whole bike did a front flip (instructor was right behind me watching this take place.. apparently it was an impressive flip ) Anyways, I broke the fall with my right knee and left palm, had gloves on but only denim jeans so fractured the kneecap. Before I even stopped rolling I was on my feet and back to the bike to hit the killswitch since the throttle jammed against the road and it started revving up. I sat down for a minute before starting to seize up a little and noticing the blood on my leg. The bike was ok, more dents and scratches and both brake levers had snapped. I could still walk though, albeit painfully and it was a country town so the instructor argued with me for 10 mins until I agreed to swap bikes and ride back with him. After that fall I was really nervous about stepping up onto a shiny new red VTR250.. but got back fine. Obviously this is a pretty tame injury compared to those listed in this thread but for my first day I was still kinda shaken about it. 2 weeks later I limped back into the training centre, went back out for a half hour ride and got my restricted license. That was 4 years and about 55,000kms on two wheels ago, so I've learnt a lot more and had plenty of experience since.. but something tells me I'll always come back until the day I'm physically incapable of sitting on one.

I would be having a go at this almost daily if I had my own compressor... but alas I don't, nor my own car and I feel bad asking my housemate to drive me across town repeatedly for what has so far provided no results. I can say that the last place I was at let it soak in all different kinds of lubricant for hours in the sun and put 130psi (compressor maxxed out and wouldn't go any higher). What I need though... is someone dodgy, willing to go a little further than the normal safety limits allow, but without being personally referred I don't know where to go. Everywhere I've been so far, the guys have been more than willing to try and rather hopeful while their boss always got shitty and tried to push me out the door saying I'm stupid for even trying.

Looks good Helweg, I just did a search through ASF - aus streetfighter forum and found about 8 different people who have successfully done this conversion with different width wheels and tyres up to 18x9 rims (though most threads are out of date and pics are dead) Have not found a single failure yet apart from mine. I've pm'd CBRRRT on that forum who was one of the first to do a write up on it and even made a .pdf how-to which shows removing the honda studs, pressing in longer studs and a home made spacer instead of the bolt-on option. How-to is located here: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_FncGC_Bi0AMDZmNTRhZjQtYTg5MS00ZTE5LWIxNDItNmRiYjUxZjUxNjI3/edit?hl=en_GB&authkey=CMuLq4gO

Seems like this particular rim is a no-go.. still not sure why it's a different outcome to the other attempts in this thread though. I really didn't want to be the first one to fail and give up but I'm not sure what other options there are apart from widening a VFR rim (expensive and not the style I wanted) or just blind luck with another rim.. Option B - anyone in Australia want a cheap/new 240/45/17 or 4.25" bolt on spacer?

I imagine they would both be a similar amount of effort, and neither option is going to be easy.. As for which one to choose, that's up to you. There have been many transplants on 4th gen's in the past, only a few on 5th gens but it may be more due to the cost as the older models can be had much cheaper. Keep us posted if this idea goes ahead

We tried 3 x 200/55/17 tyres before the current 240/45/17 The 45 in the middle is only the ratio of height to width, eg for a tyre 240mm wide, 45% of 240 (108mm) is how tall it is from sidewall to centre contact patch.. Since the rubber is molded in a complex shape and flexes easily these numbers are rarely exact, but rather a rough guide. Similarly the 200/55 would be 200mm wide and 110mm high, making only a 2mm difference between them, which is negligible. Just checked the ratio of a stock VFR tyre and it's only 99mm high being a 180/55, ever so slight difference in gearing going to a larger tyre it seems, giving lower rpm for any given speed. Anyways, back to the current situation.. I've left it with the guys at Tyrepower who generally work with trucks and 4wds, so they have a more powerful compressor to use. They have it seated on the rear bead fine, and on the front for about 95% of the circumference. It holds air fine, doesn't leak and has a good shape to it, but there is still a small section of sidewall that stayed folded under. I'll go back tomorrow when I'm not stuffing around at uni to see how its going, but with how close it is they seemed rather hopeful. @Tamworth: I'm aware of the reasons why it's hard to fit, just annoyed because nobody else had this issue before, only me. After comparing the bike rim to car rim and measuring the bead sizes I feel very confident in driving around on it for several years once it has seated properly. The only thing that was worrying me is getting it onto that bead in the first place, and if it isn't seated 100% perfectly I won't even consider using it.

haha yeah, I've done that before with car tyres on steelies a few times. Consider it a last resort to try at home since there's no way a legitimate business will try that for me in their workshop. Another problem being if that fails too I can no longer sell the tyre as brand new (or at least I wouldn't feel right about it).

They certainly did.. which made carrying it back to the car both difficult and messy. I didn't get a good look when they were attempting to fit the 200 tyre, but I watched them today on the 240 and the problem was getting it to sit over the bead at the front of the rim. About 90% of the circumference was sitting fine with a few spots folded in which let air out and prevented the rest from blowing into place from the compressor. It's the first time I've ever seen a tyre not seat on the front bead.

Ok so I've run into a problem that nobody here has mentioned.. tyres just won't fit. The guys at Teammoto tried 3 different brands of 200 width tyres and none of them would seat onto the bead, not even with a bead blaster. Conclusion was that I needed something larger, which they didn't have in stock.. so I got a 240/45/17 Diablo Rosso II shipped over from America It is currently sitting on the rim, but again, beads won't seat.. Bike shop failed and a car tyre shop failed. So now it's at another place who has that bead blaster I mentioned earlier so they can give it another go with the wider tyre. Tis getting a little frustrating by this point and if I turn up tomorrow to see another failure then I'm out of options and will probably just sell off what I had and use the money elsewhere.

So it seems OZ Supertourismos are not only rare in Australia, but really freaking expensive.. After a lot of searching and refreshing different forums and eBay searches once a day, I came across these.. As you can see near identical in design to the supertourismo, just a different brand and a bit dirty, 3 of them for $100. Considering how cheap they are, and the fact he's a 2 hour round trip away, I offered $200 if he dropped them off for me, which will be tomorrow Now I just need to order the spacers and get a tyre fitted.

[Wasn't sure where to post this, feel free to relocate/remove it if it doesn't follow the rules] Was having a look on Boostcruising classifieds and came across this for sale: http://www.boostclassifieds.com.au/advert/791469-Motorcycle-Honda-NSR-150-SP-for-Sale.html I noticed it was from a single sided swing arm, 4 stud and Honda origin so thought someone may be interested. I couldn't find much more info on google but I know they are 17" as standard and run either a 120/80 or 130/80 tyre depending on country of origin. So I'll assume it's narrow, but may be good for a custom project or one of the early 80's VF bikes. Especially if it can be bolted onto a VFR swingarm..

As mentioned earlier the bike is still able to corner at ridiculous speeds so the effect isn't detrimental. Turn in would probably be more difficult, I'll agree there but also as a street bike used for commuting it would probably make slow speed stability just that little bit easier. Can you comment on that at all Helweg? I had some pretty bad offset on my old bike, like 20-30mm since the frame was bent (should not have been registerable..) and I didn't notice any adverse affects to the steering as long as the back wheel was lined up to the front wheel and not to the markings. I imagine 10mm doesn't do much on a VFR either?