Guest OakVFR Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 OK gang, I just bought this bike a few weeks ago and it had been tipped over by PO. I replaced damaged mid fairing and crankcase cover yesterday and now that the gasket sealant has dried I wanted to start the bike and check for leaks... I tried starting the bike and it won't start...it's turning over but just wont start. The only thing I can think of was some type of sensor on the backside of the crankcase cover that I unbolted and put onto the new cover yesterday...could that cause the bike not to start???? I also recently installed a battery tender but have no clue why that would cause the bike not to start...I checked a few of the important fuses under the seat as well... Any thoughts??? What the hell did I do this time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 what does that sensor do inside the crankcase cover...it looks like it's called a pulse generator...I know I put it in correctly...could I have stretched the wires maybe??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtallguy Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Any error codes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volfy Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Sounds like the crankshaft position sensor. Not sure if the ECU would prohibit starting if it does not sense a proper CPS signal. Plausible though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Yokel Posted December 29, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted December 29, 2013 Hard re-set of the on-board computer needed maybe? Check for fault codes first... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 How do i reset the computer? Also how do i check for fault codes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 looking at the parts fiche, it does appear to be the pulse generator.... I'm assuming you've checked all the kill switches, etc when you turn the key on, you get the standard needle sweep, and the fuel pump priming the fuel rail, etc....and don't see any strange looking number codes (or flashing lights apparently) ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 I just disconnected the battery hoping to reset the computer....where would the code pop up on the dash? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Yokel Posted December 29, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted December 29, 2013 Computer reset is by disconnecting the terminals at the battery. Any codes should come up as a series of flashes on the engine light. If you have any, there is a shop manual in the downloads section that you can use to cross-reference. I'm with blake though, kill switches, normal start up electrical stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Ok....just reconnected battery with no luck... I did notice my check engine light stays solid for a moment and then blinks 9 times.... Whats that indicate?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer gll429 Posted December 29, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted December 29, 2013 down load the manual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 I did, but I don't see anything about codes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Yokel Posted December 29, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted December 29, 2013 Let me have a look. Back in a "flash" lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Switchblade Posted December 29, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted December 29, 2013 Did you install the sensor to the correct spot on the cover, on my 6th gen there 2 possible spots to connect the sensor to, one right, one wrong . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Ummmm....i think. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Switchblade Posted December 29, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted December 29, 2013 Do you still have the old one, if so check and see if it has two spots to mount the sensor .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Yokel Posted December 29, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted December 29, 2013 9 flashes indicates an IAT issue... which I doubt is your problem (it's on the air cleaner housing) as it ALSO states that the engine will operate normally under that condition. The DTC INDEX for flashes is located on page 6-14 of the shop manual. May want to double check that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 It doesnt. Only one spot. Could i have put it in upside down.... I will wait to see what code means before i open it up again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Yokel Posted December 29, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted December 29, 2013 Only sensor I can find there is the CKP sensor, that might be one long 9 short (19 as the code), it's in the right crankcase cover which I think is the one you fiddled with. Condition of failure is exactly what you have, engine does not start, injectors, fuel pump and ignition shut down. Do you hear the pump prime when you key ON and killswitch is ON etc? If not, likely you missed a wire or buggered up the CKP sensor. Looks like after all that, you were on the right track to start with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Switchblade Posted December 29, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted December 29, 2013 There's a little metal tit that extends out toward the rotating piece . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Yokel Posted December 29, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted December 29, 2013 Oh yeah, that's all on page 10-13 of the shop manual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Switchblade Posted December 29, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted December 29, 2013 I hope you did not pinch the wires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Yokel Posted December 29, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted December 29, 2013 I'm with you, Switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Dam! Better open her back up! Thanks for the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Yokel Posted December 29, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted December 29, 2013 Hopefully some of this is helping OAK, I know this stuff can be infuriating. It's one of my biggest worries about the 1200... all the electrical crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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