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  1. we inspected that exact yellow ground block in the front subharness in your pictures above. terminals were silver and in good condition
  2. Battery is healthy. Checked where battery bolts onto frame and that is tight. Checked where main harness bolts to frame and that is tight too. with key off, 0V on frame with key on, killswitch on, 3.3v on frame something is shorting somewhere. unplugging the ESR shows 0v on frame. we then depinned the ESR connector, we removed the black and white wire spade, that did not change anything, still 3v on frame. We then removed the black wire spade, coming the killswtich on the handlebar. we got the relay to click by jumping the correspoding relay pin with battery postive. 3v on frame. (this is the same as killswitch on, we are replicating that by jumping to batt positive) from this we assume that the B/W and B wires are not causing the short. so, when the relay receives 12 V from black wire, that is being grounded to G wire via the bank angle sensor. the bank angle sensor connector is currently being jumped. G wire to R/Y is being jumpered could that be causing the issue? we have gotten the bike to start before by jumping the bank angle sensor a very long time ago so we dont think this is the problem. another interesting detail is pushing the starter button causes 3v on frame with the ESR in or out.
  3. We replaced the subharness with an older subharness and still had the issue with positive voltage all over the grounds. We have not tried cranking yet, if the dash even turns on its super dim. computer is not in because we do not want to fry it. probing the frame with the conditions i mentioned above will result in positive voltage (4 or 9V instead of ground) we tested continuity on the ignition switch and it was good. if we turn the KEY to ON/OFF, with the dash unplugged, and the killswitch on STOP, the frame and harness grounds are GOOD. with either the dash plugged in or the killswitch on RUN, all grounds are BAD ONLY with key ON and fuse mentioned in previous reply. dash unplugged and killswitch RUN with the engine stop relay plugged in will cause it to click but will make all grounds BAD. without relay, grounds GOOD. we have removed the BAS and just left the connector jumpered (pins 1 and 3 connected). we originally thought it was causing the issue. the bike electronics are stripped down to only the essential components. when the grounds are bad, they are bad absolutely everywhere except the batter negative and the bolt where the battery negative bolts onto the frame. even the bolt where the main harness grounds to the frame is also bad with the conditions above. before it got this bad the dash was lighting up like a christmas tree with erroneous speed readings with the bike stationary the fuel cut off relay was buzzing continiously as well. it has gotten so bad that this does not happen anymore and we have the issue mentioned above in the described conditions. this is a very strange problem and i have never had anything like it before
  4. @Grum We added an extra power wire to the connector and replaced the burnt spade with the spade from an old main harness. That did not solve the problem. The bike no longer starts now. Turning the key will cause some intense flickering and erroneousness readings for speed on the dash. The bike will no longer start as well. Additionally, the bike starts leaking fuel out of the exhaust headers onto the ground. Disconnecting the FI harness solved that issue. With a power probe we found weak battery voltage on all parts of the frame (which should be ground) and EVERY wiring harness ground wires. Grounds near gas tank hinge were inspected and in good condition. We've isolated the problem to the "START, BANK ANGLE SENSOR FUSE" circuit. The frame is powered by the weak battery voltage when the key is on and the fuse mention above is in. Having the engine stop relay plugged in, bank angle sensor jumpered, killswitch run, with key on will cause power to be sent through the frame grounds. Without the relay the frame grounds and wire grounds normally with key on. Plugging in the dash with key on will also cause the same issue as the relay with key on. Very strange. Either the dash or the engine stop relay being plugged in will energize all the grounds. Swapping relays also had the same bad results. We believe the issues is involved with the front subharness (big grey and blue connectors). We have inspected the yellow grounding block on the front subharness and it is in good shape with no obvious burn marks. To avoid frying expensive computers, we have removed the ABS module, pulled all ABS fuses, removed the ECM, removed main fuse B. All headlight fuses and connectors have been pulled as well. We found that the tail license plate light was energizing the grounds at first, after unplugging it, the problem still persists. Also, the issues still persisted with the front subharness replaced with an old one that was involved in the accident. Any ideas?
  5. Is this good? https://www.amazon.com/FLYPIG-Starter-Solenoid-Connector-CBR1100XX/dp/B06XC7KY6S I'm not sure if it has tin spade connectors. Will definitely splice the full red wire
  6. Battery still has good voltage. 12.8V with everything off. the problem is very intermittent. the bike currently cranks and starts up with no issues, at least right now. ended up returning the new Yusasa YTZ12S battery and put the old battery back in. main fuse A seemed in okay condition. the red connector going to the starter relay had a hole much bigger than your picutre. Could that cause the problem? the old wiring harness has the red connector in good condition so I can swap them out. ALSO, where did you get that wiring diagram with the colors? The one in the shop manual is black and white and a pain to look at.
  7. 02 VFR ABS, recently in an accident. main wiring harness replaced The bike will randomly completely lose power momentarily. Everything will shut off, including the dash and motor. When the dash powers back on, the clock resets and the speedo resets to KMH. We measured 14 volts charging a couple days ago. Replacing the battery did not fix the issue. Now, after a random shutoff, the dash will light up but the bike will no longer start. It feels like there is not enough voltage to turn the starter. Measuring the voltage with key off had 12.2 volts with key on and engine off measured at 11.5 volts bike did not start and did not crank fully What could be the issue here?
  8. I need a new cooling fan as the old one is warped and wobbles, I am noticing similarities between the fan for the sixth gen and the fan for an Yamaha FZ1 or R6. Does anyone know who manufactures the fans so I can get more info about this? The Yamaha fans are significantly cheaper and if I can buy one and put it on the VFR that would be great. I am not talking about the motor but the plastic assembly with the blades the motor turns. See the two ebay links below: Yamaha FZ1: https://www.ebay.com/itm/386589503647 PAG30 written on fan Honda VFR800: https://www.ebay.com/itm/276154135140 PPG30 written on fan Yamaha R6: https://www.ebay.com/itm/256379216886
  9. Unfortunately, we could not find an ABS stay bracket before 06 in good condition. We are buying an 08 stay bracket and we are going to have to find a way to mount the 02 ECM (which is larger than the 07 one) to the bracket. The only observed differences with the newer stay bracket are the mounting bracket for the ECM, and room for an extra relay behind the gauge cluster,
  10. Similar question, will a post 05 stay bracket fit an 02? https://www.partzilla.com/catalog/honda/motorcycle/2002/vfr800a-ac-interceptor/cowl-stay-abs
  11. My buddy's bike got into an accident and we need to replace the main harness. I was wondering can I buy a 06 main harness on put it on? I know there are ECM differences after 05 so that is why I am asking. ABS model
  12. Will do, thanks. Replacing the fuse made everything work again
  13. Ah you are right, it's MIL. My bad, I'll change the title. I checked that exact fuse and the carrier is discolored from heat, part of wire thats from the fuse to the connector is exposed and slightly corroded (green). The fuse itself has bubbles and is appears to be blown. It is evident that fuse got hot. I'm not sure why. I think the fuse blew because the exposed wire touched the frame of the bike. A continuity check verified that the wire leading to fuse goes directly to the engine stop relay. It is also colored the same. I put some liquid electrical tape on the wire although there is still some green surface corrosion left on the exposed part of the wire. Will insulation suffice or should I replace the small wire segment all together?
  14. I checked the ECM power line and its receiving no power. I also checked the engine stop relay and it is clicking and works but receiving no power to send to ECU. I am going to check the fuse next. The MEL is the red FI light on the dashboard.
  15. While I was riding the motorcycle it lost throttle response. Upon trying to restart the bike it would crank but not restart. Moving the engine cut off to on or off clicks a relay and allows the starter to engage but the MEL does not illuminate for a couple seconds (as it should) and the fuel pump does not prime. The motorcycle can crank forever and not start. Thus, I have reason to believe the ECU is not turning on. Any pointers on this ECU issue? Has this happened to anyone else before?
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