coldrider Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Yes I know there are a thousand comments about the electrics on this bike and I have found great info in the past. This time I'm out of time and patience. 2005 VFR800 ABS VFRNESS installed, recall completed, new battery stator and r/r replaced previously. Symptoms are similar to everyone else, no light problems. intermittent battery fails to charge. crispy main fuse b wire and hot VFRness fuse. I have tested the wires themselves and all seems fine. OK, Here is the drill Volts Idle-14.41 5000-14.41 ?? Stator (Engine off) A-B .3 B-C .2 C-A .3 Stator to ground All infinity Stator Engine On Idle A-B 19.XX B-C 19.XX A-C 19.XX 5000 A-B 73 B-C 72 A-C 68 R/R (following this video) positive to Stator A 1.68 B. 1.68 C 1.68 Neg to Stator A .434 B .434 C .422 Reversed leads Neg to Red A .429 B .433 C. 434 Neg to green A OL B OL C OL I have a new stator and R/r and battery harness on their way. Would like to do fewer things than more. One week until 5 day trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Cogswell Posted August 20, 2018 Member Contributer Share Posted August 20, 2018 The only thing immediately coming to mind might be the main ground from the battery negative cable up to the frame under the tank. If you have hot components (too hot to touch) there's resistance somewhere - grounds are easy to overlook. Oxgard can go a long way to helping with that. I separated just about every connector on my '08 and treated all the pins with it - including all fuses. No problems at 30,000 miles (knock wood). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Terry Posted August 20, 2018 Member Contributer Share Posted August 20, 2018 I agree with Cogswell, heat is indicating areas of unusual resistance, maybe between the fuse blades and holders. If there was high current, the fuse would blow, so unusually high resistance due to corrosion would be my suggestion. Even between wires and their crimped connectors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldrider Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 Thanks. Here is a picture of the problem. Question- Will the short show up at the sight of the corrosion? or could it appear elsewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Cogswell Posted August 20, 2018 Member Contributer Share Posted August 20, 2018 That's a crispy critter for sure. I'm not expert to specifically answer your question - however if that were mine I would cut that fuse holder out of the circuit and solder in another. They're readily available at auto parts stores. There's nothing magic about Honda's - any holder compatible with the fuse type will work. It looks like the wire being held might be 12ga - that's what I would get in a replacement. If you wanted, you could probably salvage the small connector on the other wire by by cutting close to the fuse holder and splicing the new holder to it - that would retain a mostly stock set up. Some shrink tube would make for a clean install. Unless you can get the wires out of the connector to inspect them, as Terry points out there's a good chance that the wire and connector blades inside the housing are corroded and you'll continue chasing this problem until they're eliminated. I don't know where Oxgard is available in Canada (Ace Hardware in the US) - if it's not available I do recall seeing a functionally equivalent product called Noalox at Home Depot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Belfry Posted August 20, 2018 Member Contributer Share Posted August 20, 2018 Got my tube of Oxgard at Home Depot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldrider Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 Thanks. tomorrow I will be picking a new battery harness to replace this whole assembly. If that is the fix I'll send back my OEM R/R and stator. A trip to home depot is also in my immediate future. Thanks guys. Any other ideas are welcome. I've been hoping I don't have to cancel my trip. Tightwad. Yes that was me that sent you a question about the vfrness fuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldrider Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 OK I switched the battery harness out and have the bike running right now. The fuse B holder is warm. I can hold it all day without it getting uncomfortable. Is this OK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Cogswell Posted August 21, 2018 Member Contributer Share Posted August 21, 2018 It should be. The heat needed to discolor the old fuse holder would probably have burned skin or at least been painful. Once the Oxgard is on hand, I would go over each connector, ground and fuse with it. A tooth pick will do to apply it, though I use a dental tool with a flat blade that works well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldrider Posted August 22, 2018 Author Share Posted August 22, 2018 Thanks guys, took the bike out after lubing up with ox-gard and ran well with no heat build up. My trip is still on. You guys are awesome. Ride on, Coldrider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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