Megadan

The Coffman's exhaust guy would be me. Previous to that my bike had a Two Brothers system. There are two questions that should really be addressed to determine what exhaust you should run. 1. Do you want to run the factory panniers/luggage? If so, this will limit your selections a bit. 2. What is your sound level tolerance? Are you a "loud pipes save lives" enthusiast, or would you rather have something with a bit of stealth mode? The only reason I bought the Coffman's was to try it out for myself. I was actually going to purchase the DAM exhaust, but figured I would give this a try first. The Two Brothers system that was on my bike when I purchased it looked ugly, the clear coat was almost gone from the carbon fiber, and it simply had to go. I absolutely loved the look of the Coffman's shorty after seeing it on another 1200 that had installed the pre-production version. At $230 shipped to your door, it's not a huge investment. It comes with a silencer setup, and believe me it works after trying it without the silencer installed today. Even with the silencer though, it's still on the loud end of the spectrum, but not obnoxious. I am planning to try and get some sound clips of it with the silencer installed and removed this coming Friday if the weather holds. It sounds amazing without the silencer though. My neighbors will likely start hating me lol. IMHO The DAM exhaust is probably the best exhaust made for these bikes in terms of function and style. It works with the luggage, looks great and matches the lines of the bike perfectly, with the DB killer out it makes a great noise without being too loud, and with it in is actually quieter than the stock system, while also performing better. As far as the exhaust flapper solenoid, you have two options. The cheap and easy way is an exhaust valve eliminator like the Servo Buddy for $60. The more expensive way is to have a flash tune done to your ECU. The flash tune has other benefits as well beyond the solenoid elimination obviously. I had mine done by Guhl, and aside from my suspension being setup by Daughtery Motorsports, was the best investment I could have made. Reflash will cost $375 with overnight return shipping included in the price. They are fast on the turn around too. I mailed mine off on a Friday, got a call from them Monday, and got it back Wednesday. If you haven't seen my thread on the Coffman's exhaust, this is it. Scroll down to the third post to see pictures of it installed on my bike from 3 different angles.

Thank you. I can't take credit for the paint job, but that is what attracted me to it. I love Pearl Metallic oranges. I can take credit for a better looking exhaust and proper suspension at least lol. The bike doesn't sink under it's own weight now.

Got to go for my maiden voyage with the new suspension setup and the Guhl flash tune. Two words... HOLY $#@! It's a completely different bike, and entirely for the better. You are a wizard Mr. Daugherty. The preload is perfect, and I just ever so slightly had to add in a tiny bit more dampening to the rear from how it was set to suit my own preferences. This bike just darts into corners now, and I can take the same curves and corners at much, MUCH, higher speeds with complete confidence. I loved the bike before, but now I wouldn't consider anything else. The ECU flash was also well worth the money. So much smoother and controllable and definitely more powerful than it was before. It used to pull hard, but now it's like twisting a warp drive. The Coffman's shorty sounds amazing, and looks amazing too! I love my bike.

Kind words sir, thank you. The pictures were actually taken with my Cell phone lol. Just had to get the lighting and perspective right. I love this paint, although being a House of Kolor pearl paint job, it's not too surprising it's so stunning. Does amazing things in different lighting.

Now that I have my bike back together, I can share some better pictures of how it looks! Waiting on some new batteries for my camera to arrive, so no video yet. I promise I will get one! Took it for the first ride since doing all of the upgrades. With the baffles in it is surprisingly tolerable. Maybe too loud for some, but I did not find it intrusive or irritating in the slightest. At 75mph in 6th gear it was more than quiet enough that I could comfortably take a long trip without it getting on my nerves. Absolutely zero drone I have a feeling that will change once I take the silencer and baffle out.

Well that makes you even more awesome! Thank you! I would have been quite pleased with OEM seals considering mine were leaking lol. I haven't had a chance to take it out yet, but I will definitely say that after getting it installed and sitting on the bike, it is pretty nice to not sink all the way to the ground. The preload sag was almost spot on right from the get go. I just got the ECU back from Guhl and installed, so once I do a cooling system flush and get the panels back on I will be going for a "maiden" voyage. Again, you are top notch!

To start off, yes it will be loud. Not as loud as you might think, but loud. A few tests done on other bikes have shown it to actually be quieter than an open Two brothers exhaust at higher RPM, but a couple of decibels louder at idle with the silencer removed. Considering my bike had a burned out Two brothers system installed, this should actually be an improvement for me in regards to noise, and I like the look a lot more. The price for this is $230 shipped. If you are interested in ordering one, they do not have it listed on their website as of writing this post. Mine was actually one of the first ones sold right after coming back from being ceramic coated. You will have to contact them by phone or e-mail to order. The price doesn't entirely reflect the quality of this part. It is stainless steel with a CNC machined tip. The black ceramic coating is of a decent quality and all of the parts are machined well and fit tightly. Here you can see the end baffle installed and held in place with a snap ring. On the back side of that is a secondary perforated baffle to help force the exhaust flow into the packing. Just for fun, but a little side by side size comparison with the old Two Brothers system. Moving on to the exhaust installed... First thing I want to note about this exhaust is that since it has no bracket to hold it in position, Coffman's method for securing it in order to prevent rotation is the use of a small pop rivet. They include two of them with it in the packaging. It requires that you drill a small 9/64ths hole into the factory exhaust flange where the system clamps on. I ran into one issue when installing it, which was the fact that the hole is located on the inside when mounted on the bike, so unless you have an angled air drill, getting the access to drill the hole is nearly impossible. My solution to this was to use their pre-drilled hole as a guide to drill across to the other side in order to place it on the left side of the bike, slightly facing down. This gave perfect access for drilling the hole and installing the pop rivet. To be fair, this situation may have been avoided if I simply installed it level with the ground, but I wanted the tip to angle up. If you are worried about the weight of it hanging off with no support, this whole setup weighs in at about 2.5lbs. This is what I ended up with once installed. I could have angled it up a little more, but I wanted to leave a bit of an air gap with the suspension linkage, as you can see here, there is about 8mm of gap between the system and the nut on the lower linkage nut and bolt. Since the linkage moves away from the exhaust when compressed, this is as close as it will ever get to it, so I find it acceptable. I don't have any clips of it running yet either as I am waiting for my ECU to arrive at Guhl and then be returned. If all goes to plan then I should have my bike running next weekend as I already got my suspension back from Daugherty Motorsport and installed on the bike. I will update this thread with an opinion on how loud it is as well as a video of it with it in all 3 stages of it's setup - Fully open, exit baffle, and internal + exit baffle (factory setup). I also plan on taking a few pictures once my bike is back together fully to show how it looks at a distance from a few different angles. If desired, I can try to get some decibel readings of the exhaust as well.

Just a little update after a bit of an absence. Been busy with work and life. I got the new tires installed and then parked the bike to strip it down. After doing a bunch of reading, and being realistic about the use of this bike, I decided to send my suspension off to Daugherty Motorsport to have the forks and rear shock given the royal treatment. Jamie is a top notch guy to work with, and everything with smoothly. They even threw in the SKF Seal upgrade for free, which I can only assume is because they didn't have any OEM Honda seals sitting around. I spent today starting to re-assemble my bike. Got the suspension all back together. I also got my new exhaust in today. I was never a fan of the Two Brothers exhaust that came on the bike, and not because of the sound. I just found it too big and too ugly, and I could also tell the packing was pretty burned out. I managed to get my hands on the first release of the Coffman's Shorty exhaust for the 1200's. Before you say it, yes, I know it will be loud. It can't be any worse than a blown out two brothers racing exhaust, and I found that easily tolerable. Plus, it has 3 levels of baffling that you can choose from, from wide open, to two baffles. I picked this muffler entirely because it is the look and style of exhaust that I like the most. Size comparison with the Two brothers system. After a bit of fiddling I got it to install at an angle that I was happy with. Since the Coffman's exhaust has no hanger to keep it located rotationally, the standard mounting method for Coffman's is to use a small pop rivet. You use a 9/64ths drill bit and make a small hole in the stock exhaust by using a pre-drilled hole in the muffler. The problem is that they located the hole facing in toward the rear exhaust pipes, so without an angle drill head or air drill, it is almost impossible to get the hole drilled if you want the system at any sort of an angle. I got around this by using that existing hole as a guide to drill a corresponding hole on the opposite side of the muffler, and then put the riven in place on the left side of the exhaust. Very easy access for a drill doing it this way. The rivet itself is then covered by the exhaust clamp. At this angle, the exhaust has about 8 to 10mm of clearance with the lowest nut on the suspension linkage at full droop, and as seen, my Pitbull rear stand works perfectly. At this point, the only other thing I am waiting for is my ECU to be flashed and sent back from Guhl. Then, if all things go well, I should be able to ride my bike again for the first time in almost 2 months, and it should be a completely different machine.

No, I am not asking about if they make one. This is about a response I got back from Delkevic after inquiring if they were planning to make a set of headers, or even just rear pipes like they do the front pipes for the early-md 90's VFR750. This was the response I got: " Hello Daniel, Thank you for your interest in our products. I do not see we are creating any rear downpipes, but we do have a de-cat collector in the works. The project is in the early stages, so I don’t' have an estimate of when it might be complete. We do not do any custom work for pipes because of the time it takes to create them and test fitment. I will forward your request to our R&D department that monitors customer inquiries for products. I'm sorry I could not be of more assistance at this time. Cheers, Janielle Myers Branch Manager Delkevic US 303-962-2739 www.delkevic.us " Obviously, there is no hint on the time frame for said de-cat collector, but it will definitely be nice to have a potentially bolt on option. I think if there was enough interest put forward in a full header setup they may actually oblige. If you even have a remote interest in a full header kit then I would say to send them a message through their "Contact us" page on their website - this is the link to the U.S. site. https://www.delkevic.us/index.php?route=information/contact I actually have a full Delkevic exhaust on my GL1000, and while the mufflers aren't the greatest (one of mine had a tiny leak where it was riveted), the headers are fantastic and fitment was spot on. Since they already make slip on systems, if a set of headers was made it would likely utilize the existing slip on options, meaning other brand slip on's, or even a factory muffler, would bolt up. In an case, I am definitely looking forward to a bolt up de-cat pipe, so I will be keeping my eyes open for that one.

I went and retrieved some of the goodies for my bike that I couldn't take home with me. Cleaned up and installed the Corbin seat. It looks really nice, but I don't know if it is honestly any more or less comfortable than the stock seat. It makes some areas better, and then other areas worse. I am still thinking of re-skinning the stock seat, and maybe adding a gel insert to the foam. Still, the Corbin seat definitely looks nice. I ordered in a new air filter, some OEM oil filters, and 4 quarts of Pro Honda HP4S 10w30 synthetic, some Redline 80w90 "lightweight" Shockproof oil, and some high temp DOT 4 fluid to flush the brakes and clutch - the fluid is looking a bit dark for my liking. I also ordered some Bridgestone T31 Battlax tires at a local dealer that are getting installed next weekend. They had a discount on Bridgestones and were offering half off installation this month so I decided...why not. I was initially going to send the suspension off to get done first, but I decided to go ahead and send off the ECU for a Guhl reflash while I have access to it doing the air filter. I plan on doing the suspension sometime next month if all goes to plan.

That article and the people who wrote it, are spot on. I am in my mid 30's and I have a lot of younger friends who are very curious about getting a bike, but often run into a lot of the issues highlighted in that article. Another big issue I have run into with my younger friends in their mid 20's is that the entry level bike market is pretty abysmal, but getting better. If manufacturers went back to a simpler and more affordable UJM style bike, I think they would attract more riders from the younger crowd. Let's see a 400-500cc twin, no bells and whistles, but just a decently sorted bike with an affordable options catalog that starts around $5000. If you want proof of where the market is with Millennial bike buyers, look no further than the Grom/Z125 market, or the Supermoto market. Cheap, simple, affordable, fun bikes that get good fuel economy. The cheap part of that is an important factor. As a whole, millennials are a far more frugal group of discerning spenders, and to many of them a motorcycle is not viewed as a legitimate form of transportation as it is a toy for having fun. In my town, there is a very strong scene of younger riders, and one local dealership has taken it to heart and started to cater to that crowd, and their sales are better than ever. I recently got a lady friend of mine on a new Rebel 500, and she absolutely loves it. I had to show her that using a bike can be very practical, and that while the initial entry cost can be expensive between the bike itself and the gear to be safe on the road, it ends up being cheaper if you are smart about it. Plus, I have showed her the fun that can also be had when not doing the daily commute by going on a few rides with her and a couple of other friends to go see some sights, do some grilling at a park (panniers to the rescue), or doing breakfast/dinner runs - couple hour ride that ends at a diner or restaurant. I still think the VFR will live on, but Honda, like every other bike manufacturer, is in the middle of a scramble to figure out their new market. Big expensive bikes are slowly becoming the minority, and the sales reflect it. Honda saw this coming a while ago, which is why the Grom, CB500F, and Rebel 300 and 500 are actually doing decently well on the sales floor. Their price tags are appealing, and they are good solid bikes.

Is there any info on these? I am really interested in a full header setup for my 1200, but nobody really makes anything. I was looking into doing a cat delete, but if I can get my hands on a full header set, that would be even better.

Thank you gents. I actually didn't get a chance to meet the previous/original owner directly. The bike was on consignment through a nearby powersports store. What's really funny about the Punisher emblems was that I never noticed them in the first hour looking over the bike. It wasn't until they wheeled it out on the floor when I went to sign for it the next day that I saw them, and it made me kind of laugh a little. My Jeep Comanche had a Punisher sticker on the roof under the headliner that I discovered not long after buying it. It seems to be a rolling theme. I agree, the paint job on the 1200 is amazing. What is more amazing is how similar the two bikes look in the sun. The 1200 is a little brighter, but check out the metallic pearl effect on my GL1000 in direct sunlight. Very similar.

Howdy folks. I figured I might as well join a forum or two for my new (to me) bike purchase, a 2010 VFR1200. I decided after a few years of tinkering, fixing, and building my 1975 GL1000 Goldwing that I was tired of dealing with carbs and wanted something more powerful and better handling that could also still cover longer distance rides. I have always wanted a VFR1200 ever since they came out, and while many people seem very split on their opinions of the bike, I can say that it feels like Honda asked me what I thought the ultimate bike was and built it. This is my GL1000, and she has been an incredibly fun old bike, especially after fitting progressive rear shocks and RaceTech front springs and Gold Valve emulators with a fork brace. A Hydraulic clutch conversion and a few other upgrades later, a bit of a diet, and some Suzuki Sunlight Copper Pearl metallic paint make one nice looking machine (if I say so myself). However, it is time to move on, so she is going to a new owner soon. Anyway, on to the reason I am here. I went out and got myself a younger "hotter" redhead. I was actually not planning on even buying a bike for a couple more months, but when I saw this bike up for sale for a really good price, I had to jump all over it. After the ride home, she has a tick over 10k miles, and has a House of Kolor Orange Pearl Metallic paint job (previous owner was a paint and body shop owner). It also has some Throttlemeister bar ends and came with a few extra goodies like a Corbin seat, taller clear windshield, and Honda Panniers. My next steps are to get new tires, as the front is worn very poorly, and they are skirting on 5 years old. I also plan on sending my forks and rear shocks off to Daugherty Motorsports to get setup for my rather large self as this suspension was definitely not intended to handle all 6'4 260lbs of me. While I know the high end Ohlins stuff is worth its weight in gold, I am not a hardcore corner carver/track rider, so it's all wasted on me. Plus I have read nothing but great things about DMr setups on these bikes. The only other things in my plans for this bike is a DAM slip on because I don't like the look or sound of the Two Brothers can that is currently on the bike, and maybe some lighting upgrades. Anyway, thanks for taking the time to read my ramblings, and sorry if the pictures are too big. I look forward to reading through other mods/upgrades and various discussions on this amazing bike.

Howdy folks. I figured I might as well join a forum or two for my new (to me) bike purchase, a 2010 VFR1200. I decided after a few years of tinkering, fixing, and building my 1975 GL1000 Goldwing that I was tired of dealing with carbs and wanted something more powerful and better handling that could also still cover longer distance rides. I have always wanted a VFR1200 ever since they came out, and while many people seem very split on their opinions of the bike, I can say that it feels like Honda asked me what I thought the ultimate bike was and built it. This is my GL1000, and she has been an incredibly fun old bike, especially after fitting progressive rear shocks and RaceTech front springs and Gold Valve emulators with a fork brace. A Hydraulic clutch conversion and a few other upgrades later, a bit of a diet, and some Suzuki Sunlight Copper Pearl metallic paint make one nice looking machine (if I say so myself). However, it is time to move on, so she is going to a new owner soon. Anyway, on to the reason I am here. I went out and got myself a younger "hotter" redhead. I was actually not planning on even buying a bike for a couple more months, but when I saw this bike up for sale for a really good price, I had to jump all over it. After the ride home, she has a tick over 10k miles, and has a House of Kolor Orange Pearl Metallic paint job (previous owner was a paint and body shop owner). It also has some Throttlemeister bar ends and came with a few extra goodies like a Corbin seat, taller clear windshield, and Honda Panniers. My next steps are to get new tires, as the front is worn very poorly, and they are skirting on 5 years old. I also plan on sending my forks and rear shocks off to Daugherty Motorsports to get setup for my rather large self as this suspension was definitely not intended to handle all 6'4 260lbs of me. While I know the high end Ohlins stuff is worth its weight in gold, I am not a hardcore corner carver/track rider, so it's all wasted on me. Plus I have read nothing but great things about DMr setups on these bikes. The only other things in my plans for this bike is a DAM slip on because I don't like the look or sound of the Two Brothers can that is currently on the bike, and maybe some lighting upgrades. Anyway, thanks for taking the time to read my ramblings, and sorry if the pictures are too big. I look forward to reading through other mods/upgrades and various discussions on this amazing bike.