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6Th Gen Cold Start Issue


gilkeyb

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Hello,

This (appears) to be an issue not isolated to myself. I have searched and found a couple threads asking the same questions and describing the same issue. This happens on cold mornings (Worst bellow freezing, bad below 40F).

Bike cranks and starts. Idles near the "normal" level for a brief moment then drops to 700-800rpm where it runs VERY lumpy. After 10-15 seconds, RPM picks up to the normal high-idle speed of ~2500rpm.

I have tried:

Syncing starter valves

replacing air filter

replacing spark plugs

enabling/disabling PC3

enabling/disabling PAIR valve

syncing starter valves

replacing Fast Idle Wax Unit ($$$)

replacing t-stat (didn't expect this to help)

charging battery/using a battery booster (still want to try a NEW) battery.

I have not fixed the issue. I have seen multiple threads describing this condition but there is never a conclusion. Has anyone solved the puzzle on this issue?

For the record, the bike ran PERFECT up to 18K miles. Then I tore it down for a valve inspection/adjustment. It has been doing this ever since. However, I have torn the bike down to the valves 2 more times since then (always using the service manual) and still the issue persists

Brian

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My bike has done this also on the few times I left it out overnight. I thought it might be moisture or condensation. Mine is a 2007 vfr 800

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Inlet air temp sensor? It's a PITA to get to on the bottom of the airbox - used ones are relatively cheap on ebay.

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Motorcycle troubleshooting is a form of problem solving... It is a
logical search for the source of a problem so that it can be solved...
it ain't about jumping to conclusions... so always eliminate
the battery first... because you find that 90% of the time it proves
to be the weakest link of your bike... and so much depends on correct
voltage that it's pays to have your battery tended to a charger at all
times...

To determine the condition of an Maintenance Free battery give it a
refreshing charge... wait 30 minutes... measure terminal voltage...

12.8 or higher is a good battery...
12.0 to 12.8 is a insufficient charge... recharge...
12.0 or lower... battery unserviceable...

The days of the old heavy lead acid battery are number... smart money
is on the new light weight Lithium Iron battery like Shorai... not
only is it 5lbs lighter but doesn't require trickle charging and will
not sulfate... I also recommend Shorai's balance charger because it as
two modes one for storage and one for charging...

5th Gen VFR800 Standard Recommendation: LFX18A1-BS12

http://www.shoraipower.com

Shorai Balance Charger...

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Inlet air temp sensor? It's a PITA to get to on the bottom of the airbox - used ones are relatively cheap on ebay.

I have the airbox off currently. So yes, i've tried connecting/disconnecting the air-temp sensor. This didn't make any positive impact on the performance. I don't think it is the culprit

Motorcycle troubleshooting is a form of problem solving... It is a

logical search for the source of a problem so that it can be solved...

it ain't about jumping to conclusions... so always eliminate

the battery first... because you find that 90% of the time it proves

to be the weakest link of your bike... and so much depends on correct

voltage that it's pays to have your battery tended to a charger at all

times...

To determine the condition of an Maintenance Free battery give it a

refreshing charge... wait 30 minutes... measure terminal voltage...

12.8 or higher is a good battery...

12.0 to 12.8 is a insufficient charge... recharge...

12.0 or lower... battery unserviceable...

The days of the old heavy lead acid battery are number... smart money

is on the new light weight Lithium Iron battery like Shorai... not

only is it 5lbs lighter but doesn't require trickle charging and will

not sulfate... I also recommend Shorai's balance charger because it as

two modes one for storage and one for charging...

One of the first things I tried was a charged battery. I have tried eliminating the battery and running it off a battery booster only. I've tried both in parellel. I've done everything I can in terms of the battery. I also have had the battery checked by the auto shop and it checked as "okay".

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Realise this is an old thread and you may not read this but did you ever resolve this? Mine is back to doing it again this year and it's irritating me.

I was about to try replacing the fast idle unit but seeing that you already did that and made no difference I'm not keen on spending the money and effort to remove the throttle bodies.

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