Guest red91vfr Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Hey everyone. I am new to the forum, just purchased my first bike a 91 vfr 750. My question is what type of radar is everyone running. Where i live radar is illegal so i need something that can be removed easily. What i am looking for is something that is all together(no separate laser), one piece. Something that i could preferably mount in the windshield. Thanks for any help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeorski4me Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 I quit using radar a while back, it only seemed useful in the fog and I really got tired of that big white dome on my pillion :huh: Now, a Radar Detector on the other hand is something else...just about any make will do but likely won't save you any tickets if the locals are using Laser Speed Guns. Also, almost every police service in NA is using instant on technology of some kind so your only hope is if you pick-up a scattered signal from other traffic so that you at least have a hope of slowing down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest red91vfr Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 sorry for the confusion. What i meant to say was a radar detector. The main reason i want one is that we are going out to BC this year and in alot of places the speed limits are 70-80km/hr, when you can really be going much faster. So it is just going to be a little insurance if we are running one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baileyrock Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 The V-1 and Escort 8500 are two of the top rated with the the V-1 at $400 and the 8500 at $300. And oh yah, Welcome to the site and VFR's! :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Motor_Ref Posted February 16, 2006 Member Contributer Share Posted February 16, 2006 sorry for the confusion. What i meant to say was a radar detector. The main reason i want one is that we are going out to BC this year and in alot of places the speed limits are 70-80km/hr, when you can really be going much faster. So it is just going to be a little insurance if we are running one. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Search for the independent tests. There are several sites which google will find for you. If their results make sense to you, follow them. If not, oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer fallzboater Posted February 16, 2006 Member Contributer Share Posted February 16, 2006 Hey everyone. I am new to the forum, just purchased my first bike a 91 vfr 750. My question is what type of radar is everyone running. Where i live radar is illegal so i need something that can be removed easily. What i am looking for is something that is all together(no separate laser), one piece. Something that i could preferably mount in the windshield. Thanks for any help. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I have a V1 with the windshield mount screwed to the inside of my VFR's stock windscreen. Effective location for reception and visibility while riding, but definitely not stealthy. Best bet for stealth would probably be inside the top pocket of a tank bag, wired to earphones or helmet speaker, but you would probably lose all laser coverage. After using the V1 with directional arrows, I would never go back to another detector. It's real effective around here where a lot of the local cops drive around with the radar on all the time. Out on the highway, you need to have enough traffic to hide in and catch instant-on radar hits from ahead, or be following a "speeding sponsor". A laser warning most likely just tells you that you've already been tagged. I'm not convinced one way or the other about the laser-scattering coatings that go over your headlight lenses, that or a laser jammer might be worth a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer dirtbag Posted February 16, 2006 Member Contributer Share Posted February 16, 2006 got an escort and it's mounted to the windshield with velcro. it kinda wedgies right in between the screen and the dash... a perfect fit really. used a coiled telephone cord and soldered some headphone connectors to fit the escort and mounted a speaker in my helmet. works great! when i dont use the radar, the drop cord from the helmet tucks up nice and neat, and having the coiled cord allows even fill ups with out disconnecting! by the way i also hardwired for power to the bike using a peice of telephone cord... anyone that says an escort or v1 isn't worth the money has either never had one, or had never learnt how to 'interpret' what it is trying to tell you. by the way, detectors are 100% LEGAL over here in b.c. :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Cdn Arctic Posted February 16, 2006 Member Contributer Share Posted February 16, 2006 Here is another option for monitoring a detector. I have been using a Bel 946 mounted in a tank bag using an audio mixer and a headset. Reasonable results, but the audio from my MP3 player is down a bit and will need an amp if I continue this way. :music: Instead I am moving to the Sportvue HUD that accommodates a detector output with visual rather than an audio alerting. (Purchased and awaiting warmer weather for install) http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=17309 www.sportvue.com The best feature of the detector is training me on where I'm mostly likely to come across a radar speed trap. The cruiser with instant on is everyones nightmare. Not much can be done here except trust your luck, if you are the lead vehicle or the only guy out there and you detector goes off, you are toast.. Laser is pin point targeting and again there isn't much defence unless you try to jam the signal and from what I read jamming might not be that effective. That leaves the various iterations of radar. The more effective units are short range instant on. Anything more than 1000 yards away will probably get missed by your detector. IMO that only leaves having some idea of where traps are most likely to be positioned and then not speeding in those locations. My detector does confirm where the trap is and helps me determine what locations are used. Police are creatures of habit and will tend to "fish" the same hole time after time. The most common is speed transition zones and it doesn't matter if speed are increasing or decreasing. You know the places, you are heading out of town and the traffic is light, the road is straight, the speed limit is slow and sometimes you can even see the sign posting the higher speed in the distance and you twist it a bit. And there he is, fishing outgoing traffic. Same thing, in reverse, coming into town. Toast. Another protection for the M/C is lane choice. If you are on multi-lane roads stay in the right lane except for passing. Police usually shoot the passing lane traveller first, they may even ignore the slow lane traffic so as not to tip off oncoming traffic that might have a detector. The only solution is not to speed. After having said that, the only PRACTICAL solution is to know where you are most likely to encounter a radar trap and then train yourself to watch for these locations and adjust your speed accordingly. Sorry for my run away here. :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer dutchinterceptor Posted February 16, 2006 Member Contributer Share Posted February 16, 2006 Don't they confiscate your detector in Canada if they catch you with one? Valentine is probably the coolest with its directional arrows. Beltronics is made by Escort now. I'm been running a Whistler up under my front fairing with good results but am about to mount a new Beltronics behind my turn signal lens. It will be wired into the bike and my helmet speakers AND be totally hidden. By the best you can afford and spend alot of time with it in your car first. Drive around where you know cops are lurking and figure out how it reacts to different radar and false alarms. Good luck. Here's a site that has pretty good information.... http://www.radarbusters.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Cdn Arctic Posted February 16, 2006 Member Contributer Share Posted February 16, 2006 Don't they confiscate your detector in Canada if they catch you with one? Valentine is probably the coolest with its directional arrows. Beltronics is made by Escort now. I'm been running a Whistler up under my front fairing with good results but am about to mount a new Beltronics behind my turn signal lens. It will be wired into the bike and my helmet speakers AND be totally hidden. By the best you can afford and spend alot of time with it in your car first. Drive around where you know cops are lurking and figure out how it reacts to different radar and false alarms.  Good luck. Here's a site that has pretty good information.... http://www.radarbusters.com/ <{POST_SNAPBACK}> In some provinces possession is illegal and confiscation will result, but in Alberta and BC they are OK. Can't comment on the rest of Canada except for manitoba, illegal to posses or use, even if you are a travelling across the province they can confiscate a detector, even if it isn't in use. Got to find it first though! Can anyone els help with the rest of Canada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Â Can anyone els help with the rest of Canada <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Possesion is now illegal in Ontario. That means if you have one in its original shrink-wrapped box in the trunk of your car, you can be charged and the RD is subject to confiscation. The law was changed several years ago - after Bel moved out of province... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest red91vfr Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 saskatchewan is also illegal. I am from Manitoba, they are illegal here. The main reason I want one is that me and a couple of friends are going out to B.C. this year and i would really like for the mountains, and Saskatchewan(straight and flat). Thanks for all the help so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeorski4me Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 In some provinces possession is illegal and confiscation will result, but in Alberta and BC they are OK.? Can't comment on the rest of Canada except for manitoba, illegal to posses or use, even if you are a travelling across the province they can confiscate a detector, even if it isn't in use.? Got to find it first though!? Can anyone els help with the rest of Canada <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Actually they are not illegal to own, just illegal to use If you're going to own one you better not have it turned on :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Cdn Arctic Posted February 17, 2006 Member Contributer Share Posted February 17, 2006 bikeorski4me, I believe your statement is not correct. I seem to recall seeing a sign on the highway informing incoming traffic of the Manitoba position on RD. Don't use, don't possess. I make it as follows right now: BC - legal Alberta - legal Saskatchewan - Legal Manitoba - illegal to use or Possess. Ontario - illegal to use or possess. Quebec - ?? Nova Scotia ?? PEI - ?? New Brunswick - ?? Newfoundland - ?? NWT - ?? Yukon?? Nunavut?? Can anyone fill in the missing information?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Claude Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 bikeorski4me, I believe your statement is not correct. I seem to recall seeing a sign on the highway informing incoming traffic of the Manitoba position on RD. Don't use, don't possess.I make it as follows right now: BC - legal Alberta - legal Saskatchewan - illegal to use - Possession?? Manitoba - illegal to use - Possession?? Ontario - illegal to use or possess. Quebec - ?? Nova Scotia ?? PEI - ?? New Brunswick - ?? Newfoundland - ?? NWT - ?? Yukon?? Nunavut?? Can anyone fill in the missing information?? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> They are in fact LEGAL in Saskatchewan. Red91VFR - save yourself mail order headaches and study via the internet what you want to buy and you'll likely find most average & low-price detectors at future shop or best buy on your way through SK. (I live in Regina, moved here from Winnipeg about 3 years ago.) On a trip to Mb 2 years ago I got pulled over just outside of Brandon (Mb) for radar detector use. They NAILED me with a fine just shy of 300$ but they let me keep the detector (if I put it in the trunk) because they're allowed here in SK. FWIW, the signs in Mb say that possession is illegal in Mb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Cdn Arctic Posted February 17, 2006 Member Contributer Share Posted February 17, 2006 Update Feb 17 - #1 I make it as follows right now: BC - legal Alberta - legal Saskatchewan - Legal Manitoba - illegal to use or Possess. Ontario - illegal to use or possess. Quebec - ?? Nova Scotia ?? PEI - ?? New Brunswick - ?? Newfoundland - ?? NWT - ?? Yukon?? Nunavut?? Can anyone fill in the missing information?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 Can anyone fill in the missing information?? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> From the Canadian Council of Motor Transport Administrators: BC Yes ABA Yes SK Yes MB No ON No QC No NB No NS No NIL No PE No NT No YT No NU No Seems its OK in the West and catch-as-catch-can everywhere else. Looking at a couple of maritime provinical (NS, NB) sites possession is illegal, too. Of course, so is speeding... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer tooslow Posted February 18, 2006 Member Contributer Share Posted February 18, 2006 Does anyone have an answer as to what happens to an out of country rider getting caught for speeding--do they collect the fine on the spot, take you to the courthouse, or apply it somehow to your driving record when you get home? thank you, tooslow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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