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REDDOG last won the day on August 12 2012
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Glad you are safe Lee...I am about 70 miles away from 100,000 miles on a rogue trip up to South Dakota. .will check mine in the morning at the hotel. 2002 here. Bill
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I had a great time, perfect weather, riding, and a lot of laughs. Awesome.
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Success! Got everything back together and it feels great.
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Thank you Terry, I did exactly as you describe while setting the level (the manual was fairly clear on this part). I also noticed the extra resistance on the leg to get it fully seated down after it was primed, but I didn't know the cause. When it felt primed and no air I set the level. Doing new tires at the same time so I won't get a ride in until tomorrow afternoon. Thanks as well Duc2v4. Jamie sent me initial rear settings so I should have a really good starting point. I will zip tie the fork and check travel; I went with the Honda Pro 5W black bottle and set to 130mm. This has been super helpful, with my son riding the bike I barely touched it for 2 years and simply ran out of ideas once I got it back to figure out the problem.
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Well I think I am onto one major problem, I am a dum### when it comes to suspension. When I read BR's 30 minute fork oil change he said to lift the front wheel off the ground, which fully extends the fork tube. So I measured the 100mm with it fully extended. No mention in the manual either of extended or compressed. So I am doing it all over again today (with the forks out), adding away, and WTF, I am already putting in more than the 18 or so ounces per the manual and its not even close to the mm down from top. Go back and dig through the quick change post and find a few pages down it says measure top down with the fork tube fully compressed. Gah ! Just imagine how much oil was in there measuring with the tube extended, no wonder it was trying to throw me off the bike. Can't even remember how I did it the first time two years ago when I changed the seals (that was the first time I did any fork work), I thought I did it by volume so it should have been close, but not totally sure. I am expecting dramatic results now when I get done! Hard to admit, but if it helps the next first timer it will be worth the embarrassment. From a 2011 forum post- "That is the level of the fluid measured from the top of the tube with the springs out and the fork totally compressed. "
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Thanks guys. Jamie sent me info on setting up the rear, which I will start testing. Trying the lighter oil is really easy, so that's next as well. The forks are stock, but I throughly cleaned the internals when I did the seals. I will post up what I find.
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Thanks! Looking forward to seeing everyone again. So now I have a week in Billings Montana next month with my Dad and Brother (BMW rally, that's what they ride). Then I have friends flying in from California to ride here for a few days, and two days after that is SumSum. The calendar is starting to look good this summer!
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Ok, you are right, I have an adjuster at the bottom! I was looking at the top like the old VFR shock. Been awhile since I installed it, and like I said I have not rode the bike for a year. I can start playing with the pre-load. Here is the top, just FYI.
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Forks are stock. Unless I am missing something, the pre-load can't be adjusted. When you order the shock from DMr you give him your weight and he installs the proper spring for the correct sag. There is just a spacer above the spring, not an adjuster.
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~95,000 miles on the bike. Changed fork seals two years ago and then loaned the bike to my son for a year. Got it back, took a short ride and it felt really harsh on rough roads. Thought with the mileage the rear shock could be toast so I did the DMr F4i conversion, then loaned it out for another year before I got any real seat time on it. Its back now and I am really hating the ride, feels like it’s trying to buck me off on larger bumps and I really feel the expansion cracks. I have been on my FZ1 since loaning the VFR, and the FZ1 does have an almost upright riding position with very little pressure on the arms. The VFR puts a lot more pressure on the arms, so maybe I need to re-adapt with more stomach muscle. But even testing more upright positions the VFR feels bad. When I hold the brake and push on the FZ1 it feels smooth and linear. It takes twice as much pressure on the VFR to compress the forks a similar distance (as the FZ1) and the VFR gets even harder as it compresses further down. I checked the oil (Honda SS8) and it was at around 100mm. I set it down to 130mm from the top (per a DMr recommendation I saw on the forum). The lower oil level seemed to help somewhat, but it’s still a harsh ride. Front pre-load is about 3/4 out. Rear shock set to full soft. I can’t adjust rear pre-load but did order it for my weight (185). I checked the manual again and I have the spring installed with the “tight” winding in the shock and the uniform winding at the top. I am hating the bike right now I don’t suspect I put 89,000 miles on it feeling like it does now. Thoughts? Bill
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WITHOUT MIGUEL !!! My brother flew out last year from Delaware to Colorado for a week of dirt bike and street riding. We had a great time but had a major glitch. I managed to blow up my Yamaha FZ1 ECU 2 days before he flew out (long story). I could not find one in time so I had to borrow a bike so we could do the 4 day Colorado ride we had planned. A good buddy of mine up in Denver had a Ninja 650 he let us use and I returned it with a new set of tires as thanks for the loaner. My brother rode the Ninja and I rode my VFR. We had a blast and decided to something again this year. A few weeks before he came out he called and said “think big” this year. So about a week before he got here we decided on a Colorado to the California coast ride. I had everything ready, the FZ1 and VFR were packed, oil changed, etc. He called and said he was on the way to the airport in Philly, everything was going according to plan. It was about 2pm on Friday and our ride was going to start the next morning. I hopped on the VFR to go fill up the tank and only got a few blocks away when my radar detector started to glitch and die. Been down this road before, I knew I had a charging problem. I get back in the garage and sure enough no charging on the battery. I had mentioned to my brother a few weeks back that I should get a new stator just in case. This would be my third bad stator at 92,000 miles, but I did the math and figured the current one only had about 15K miles on it and I should be fine. The first two lasted around 30-40K miles each. I tear off the ride side and unsolder the yellow wire connections. 0 ohms to ground on all legs…OMG…I am SCREWED, and can’t believe this happened two years in a row right before our big ride. I call everywhere in Colorado, no stock, and I don’t have time to have one shipped from online. I called my brother and he was at the gate ready to board….”Greg, you are not going to believe this”…At first he thought I was joking for sure. Checkmate….maybe… I texted Miguel who just happened to be off that day after a night shift. “Miguel, I might need a really big favor, give me call when you can.” Miguel called about a half hour later and I explained the situation. “Can I borrow your bike?....where ya going?....California..for nine days…..OK, I will go get it ready for you”. My wife just happened to get off early that day and about an hour after discovering the deep fried stator I was in Miguel’s garage with my riding gear. Another miracle when I looked at the tires, he had recently put a new set of PR4s on so the bike was ready to roll! I promised to take good care of the Veefalo and would put a new set of tires on or pay for a new set if these came back with some life. I had ridden the Veffalo a few times when we swapped bikes out on a ride, but never more than an hour or so. He showed me the heated grips (which turned out to be extremely useful) and gave me all his wiring so I could hook up my stuff. I got back and started packing up the Veefalo and got my radar working…I was ready to go! I had to drive up from the Springs to Denver to pick up my brother who got in around 9pm. I made him suffer all the way home until I opened the garage door there sat the Veefalo and the FZ1….WHOOT ! Early the next morning we were off to Salt Lake for the first leg, 552 miles. The 1200 was very comfortable and I was glad for the tires. It absolutely poured the last 120 miles into Salt Lake. We went by the seat of our pants and made no reservations anywhere, just finding hotels each night, which was never a problem. Sunday- Salt Lake to Truckee, CA – 549 miles. We stayed at my high school buddies house, who would join us on his Connie14 later in the week. Monday- Truckee north, then into Red Bluff. We had skipped Lassen Volcanic park and calculated that we actually had enough time to make it from Red Bluff to Eureka that same day. So off we went on the famous route 36, and a 142 miles of corners. I had always thought Colorado was the best…maybe for scenery and some great roads…but nothing like this….it was truly 142 miles corners, elevation changes, and hardly any traffic. Veefalo loved the bigger sweepers but was a bit of handful in the really tight stuff. Fun for sure, just had to muscle it bit more than my sixth gen. But nobody heard me complaining!! I was so happy to be there. We made it into Eureka and got a hotel. Tuesday was Eureka to Yreka. Rt. 299 was also superb climbing away from the coast. Awesome sweepers and great views. We stopped for lunch in Weaverville and then rt. 3 up to Yreka. My buddy met us up there and three of us were off to Ft. Bragg the next morning. We diverted a bit again from the master plan and took Gazelle Callahan road out of Yreka and got on Callahan-Cecilville road. That road was awesome, until we got to Cecilville, then it turned into a Goat Trail shelf road from hell about half way to 96…..all paved but very narrow. We jumped on 96 south to Willow Creek, then 299 back to Eureka and down 101 to the Avenue of the Giants, and then Rt. 1 down to Ft. Bragg. Route 1 down to the coast was very technical and fun, then suddenly you break out to the coast….spectacular….We got a great hotel in Ft. Bragg with rooms overlooking the shoreline. If I did it all over again I would have taken one day completely off the bike and stayed an extra day in Ft. Bragg. I really liked that town. Thursday- Ft. Bragg, Skaggs Springs, Vacaville. Skaggs was awesome, but too short!!! The Veefalo had the most fun on this section and simply devoured the corners. Had both knees down through this section…YEA BABY! Next through the “Valley” and to my buddies other house in Vacaville where we had a great dinner and maybe just a little partying. Friday- Vacaville to Ely, NV. Took 50 into Nevada and just laid down miles across the high desert. Again, fantastic scenery like we had the entire trip. You could see forever and might not have a corner for 20+ miles. Yep, it was time to wick it up…but who would do it first….I noticed my brother dropped back a bit…and then ZOOM as he flew past in the left lane. That FZ1 Two Brothers pipe was screaming its beautiful sound. I start to catch up…110…120…135….145 (Don’t tell Miguel)…The Veefalo was rock solid at speed, but we only stayed there a minute or so…OK, we got that out of our system. Saturday- Ely to Grand Junction. We decided to skip Moab so we would have an easy day back home on Sunday. On Sunday we headed back over Independence pass and back to home to Woodland Park. It was our shortest day and we were home by noon. I had time to give the Veefalo a good wash so I could get it back to Miguel the following day. Those PR4s still had some life left and I really liked the tires. I had 100% confidence and never felt any slips. Total miles in nine days: 3,507 Thanks again Miguel….that was a huge favor!! Next year the plan is for my brother to come the to Summit with us...and then Miguel might have something big planned for us after that.... Notes: The desert gets cold….I ran those heated grips for hours each day.. The Veefalo WILL power wheelie in first gear, as found out when I did a quick highway merge in CA. The FZ1 gas mileage sucks…I was getting a few 44 mpg runs on the Veefalo….and only 36 on the FZ1 Never ever go on a big ride (6th gen) without a spare stator and RR (although my RR has never failed).. Signal Dynamics voltage monitor LED installed Need heated grips...
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150k+ miles on different bikes, never "cleaned" a chain. Slap some gear oil down every 600 miles or so...the good O-ring chains last 22k-25k miles...then replace sprockets and chain...rinse and repeat @ the next 23k miles..
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Thread For Ride Planning To / From SumSum2
REDDOG replied to Q-Dawg's topic in Summer Summit Meet (SumSum)
I'll be in Denver on Monday night for the Iron Maiden concert. What time will you and Bill leave Colorado Springs? Or, can you suggest a time and town for me to join up with you? Which reminds me that if anyone is coming in from the east on Sunday night, let me know. I plan on jetting across Kansas from the early AM on Monday to make my concert that evening. It'll probably be an I-70 cannonball. Gentlemen, I plan on heading west from Panama, NE Friday or Saturday the 10 or 11th to visit an old friend in the Buena Vista area . I would love to try and meet up with guys and ride in to Montrose on Tuesday. Thanks, Mike Hey Mike, I am suspecting that we will be coming in south of Buena Vista on 50, so maybe a good place to meet you will be in Salida. That will be south of you and a slight back track east on 50. There is also a gas station where 285 runs into 50 that could work. It is also possible that we will take 24 to 285, which will put us right near Buena Vista to meet you. Miguel will let us know what time he is leaving the Springs with Lee. Once we know that we will be able to give you a decent ETA and meeting location. Bill