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Well, I had removed the whole ignition system including the pulse generator, but that’s also why I’m looking for this group’s insights.
 

Cheers. 

2 hours ago, Grum said:

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Is that how you interpret a code 19?

You're "probably" just guessing I guess.!!

I obviously defer to your experience. I’ve been working on VFRs for a total of 1 week. But that’s what code 19 says so I’m working through its troubleshooting procedures. 

10 hours ago, Duc2V4 said:

Snap a pic of the ECM sticker showing the numbers, I may be able to provide you a replacement for you.

 

Cheers,

D

@Grum thanks man. Seems like I got myself into a mess here. I was expecting there to be a burnt contact or funny FI code, but alas :’(

The FI codes are flashing (19) for pulse ignition system fault -  but that is probably because I have removed the injectors to clean them. 
 

@Duc2V4 if you’ve got one I can buy off of you, I’d be very appreciative. Can’t buy this stuff off eBay with any reliability. Attached is the pic. 

18 hours ago, Grum said:

BE EXTREMELY CAREFUL IN BYPASSING THE FCR, GET IT WRONG AND YOU'LL DESTROY YOUR ECM!

Unfortunately, looking at your photo it appears like you may have done just that, jumpered 12v to the Brown/Black ECM Ground output for the FCR.!!!!!

Hey Grum, what should I look for to check that I did/didn’t burn out the ECM doing this?  

3 hours ago, Grum said:

 

If you've bypassed the Fuel Cut Relay to get your pump running then that is the reason the pump doesn't stop after Ignition Switch On!

The ECM controls the Fuel Cut Relay coil Ground side, with it bypassed this cannot happen.

 

BE EXTREMELY CAREFUL IN BYPASSING THE FCR, GET IT WRONG AND YOU'LL DESTROY YOUR ECM!

You only need to jumper one of the Black/White wires to the Brown wire NOT the Brown/Black ECM wire. Unfortunately, looking at your photo it appears like you may have done just that, jumpered 12v to the Brown/Black ECM Ground output for the FCR.!!!!! There should ONLY be one jumper wire.

See Attached photo - The guy that did this destroyed his ECM, does the jumpering look familiar? No the relay socket hasn't melted, its just drowned in Dielectric Grease!

 

For Info - You can always use say the Hi Beam Relay in the Fuel Cut Relay position as Hi Beam, Lo Beam, Fuel Cut and Engine Stop Relays are the same type.

 

 

Thanks for the warning and info that the headlight relay is the same. I’ll pull that and swap until the oem arrives. 

I’m trying to get my father’s old Gen 5 up and running. He parked it in the garage 5 years ago and hadn’t touched it since. 
 

I replaced the battery immediately so assume all of these tests were done with a fully charged battery. All fuses were in good condition. 

The first thing I did was remove the PAIR system because it was so hard to work around. 

I found that the residual gas left in the tank rusted the internal fuel pump/filter and some of the tank. So I cleaned that out, resealed it, replaced the fuel pump with an after market QFS oem replacement. When the fuel pump still wouldn’t prime I traced the problem to the fuel shutoff relay. I ordered a replacement on Amazon (which turned out to not be the model I ordered) so while I wait for the new OEM one to come, I bypassed the relay which now allows the fuel pump to prime. The problem is it doesn’t stop priming. Is this related to the fuel shutoff relay or is it a pressure sensor? Any thoughts?

Even with the fuel pump going, I cannot get the engine to start. Spark plugs look fine, engine is turning over. Oxygen is fine. The next thing I’m going to do will be to disassemble and clean the fuel injection assembly.  And hopefully it is just clogged injectors. 

Any help would be appreciated, especially around the relays - I’m used to working on track bikes, I’m not used to all of the sensors and relays on this bike.