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This is an endless game, comrade. I have varying bars on most of my bikes. They're all better than stock, but none are even close to great. 

I couldn't find a thread for funnies/memes/videos so just posting here. 

Nice work!

I still don't know what an MBD is...but these are the pads I pulled from to put back in the '98 the other day! New ones are only 3mm, so 1mm is 1/3 life left! It is quite remarkable how long brake pads last. 

I've had NEW ones in the cabinet for years and won't likely ever need them. 

Thanks again. It has a good stock shock, I want a Penske/Ohlins, etc. 

1 hour ago, Skids said:

What a twat 🤬

I think he's dealing with some other big stuff, but I would have liked to have those two hours for something useful...

I did bump into this, which I hadn't seen before. 

I think that rising only would just make the levers even higher than stock. 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/284690254630

Back to bars. I just measured the stock height (center of bar 3.25" above top of triple) against the Helibars which claim a 1 1/4" additional rise (but actually measure 4", so .75" more rise). That is total BS and explains why I notice a difference, but that they aren't all day comfy by any stretch. Narrowed it down to a few options, but can't find comparison measurements from stock. 

https://www.helibars.com/products/helibars-handlebar-risers-for-honda-vfr800-vfr800-vtec.html

To me, $360 has always sounded like about twice or more what they're worth. I'd get another set used if I could find one.

https://www.convertibars.com/product-p/honda-vfr-800-i-00-01.htm

I checked a set of these on a VFR in person yesterday, but they felt way off. I'd surely hace to play with the angle. Looks like 1" ride from stock without getting lines. Still, $340, which seems insanely high to me. 

https://www.apexmfg.com/all-products/apex-clip-ons/apex-3-riser-clip-on-set

I've been trying to buy footpegs from these guys for many years, so I'm not even sure if they sell anything listed on their site. And, 3" looks like the size, not the optional rise from stock, so useless unless the sell a taller vertical shaft as an option. They're cheaper at $263!

https://woodcraft-cfm.com/collections/clipon-risers also makes some, but max 3" rise, so same as stock. 

A lister has a stock screen on the way to me to replace the bubble I have on the red '98. The stock one seems like a lot less wind on the neck muscles!

A local guy sold a shock out from under me and didn't tell me until I got to his house to pick it up yesterday. People... so, I'm still hunting for a shock for the yellow '00.  

Definitely almost done...

On 4/15/2022 at 5:34 PM, 4li3nVFR said:

OK thanx for the info guys.  bmart how much did Thermosman charge you for the rebuild?  

It will depend on what he does. Certainly worth a call or e-mail. IMHO, there's no one better. 

Or send them to a reputable place, like Thermosman. No where near $1200, done right the first time. I have 20k on mine from him and they are superb. I had him adjust the shims. i'd demand the $ back from the dealer. 

Dealers suck these days. It wasn't always like that. They touched my track bike forks a few years back and I got them home and they screwed up the internals. Monkeys. We live with monkeys among us. 😛

+1 for TT. 

1 hour ago, Kbear said:

Shows me that someone cares for their machine. Cares enough to take the time to mount a fender to keep junk from messing up their bike. One who thinks enough about their motorcycle to take the initiative to mount one is okay in my book. 

That must be it. I have the master/slave switched. I believe they're here to serve me and spend minimal time on maintenance and maximum on riding. 😛

1 hour ago, stuartb3502 said:

No expert since I didn't research and fit, but does help to stop swingarm and shock being as battered by road debris and road salt etc. I couldn't get a good hugger on the Triumph but did fit a small protector which stops the shock being sprayed at least.

Thanks. I've never had issues with that in my 250k+ miles of riding. Maybe I just ride in clean places? lol

I like stock best...lut of those. But, the middle naked looks best to me. I'm a lover of that style overall. FJ1200. VTR250. GS700ES. 

What does this solve? (I'm curious!)

Interesting oil filter tool. How tight are yours? 

In a rare move...I lightly cleaned it after the brake fluid flush and oil change. 

Now you're making me do actual work. Harumph... Going through old notes, and my weight hasn't changed:

CB-1: 912# rear spring, .9kg fork springs (same as multiple prior ones)

98 VFR: 900# rear spring, .9kg fork springs (Same as prior '99)

00 VFR: 857# stock spring, .9kg fork springs

Track bike 03 R6 #1: 575# rear spring, .925kg fork springs (perfect for me)

Track bike 03 R6 #2: 600# rear spring, .900kg fork springs (It is fine, but was set up on its tail and now is set up on its nose)

Prior R6 was identical to #1. Prior to that was 550#, .925kg.

07 GSXR750 track bike:  ~535# rear spring, .966kg fork springs

93 FJ: 975# rear spring, 1.05 fork springs

VTR250 had .830 fork springs. 

I never looked back at one time, but the story seems pretty much the same. Slightly lighter springs up front for lighter bikes. Changing rates in back for varying mechanics/action. 

That is just nuts. That is uber strong. I'm 185# w/full gear and am 850-950# spring, depending on the bike. I've never even heard of anyone going near that high on any bike, regardless of their weight. But if you like it! What kind of sag numbers do you get from it?

I did finally get around to flushing the 22 year old brake and clutch fluid over the last 24 hours. The stuff that came out wasn't really that bad. Still, both systems feel and work better now. I also threw in a not so free oil change. I thought it was still in there from the Honda build, but I spotted the Fram filter. Mobil 1 4T went in and it surely feel and shifts much better. 

That is uper strong. I'm 185# w/full gear and am 850-950# spring, depending on the bike. 

(Bad) spec for me on the CB-1 is 1300#, but they didn't consider the linkage when they created the list. 

Most of the other bikes I have have suspension customzed for me. I'm just being frugal...or failing at being frugal. 

Rear shock is stock. The spring rate is close enough, but the valving feels like crap. 

Front springs are .90 kg/mm but I didn't touch valving yet. Again, spring rate is perfect but valving feels terrible.