sfdownhill

Greetings header gang - this update is to let everyone know that we will be able to pick up the current order of headers week after next, so Duc2V4 and I will be contacting all those who placed deposits with a balance due including shipping cost where applicable. Please feel free to contact either or both of us by PM with any questions.

Last Saturday we stopped by Wade's and gave him the deposits for 15 headers. 11 have been ordered by members here, and Duc2V4 will have 4 more sets for sale, so if anyone hears of someone who might be interested in getting their 5, 6, or 8 gen VFR800 breathing better, please let them know how to reach us here.

At this time, for the four extra sets, we plan on ordering 3 sets for 5 gen [These can have the collector exit cut 5/8" shorter to become 6 gen headers] and 1 set for 8 gen with front radiator [vs the side radiators of 5/6 gens]. Wade has two orders in production ahead of ours, so we're approximately 6 weeks away from having the pipes ready to pick up and take to the passivators. Onward and upward!

On 6/19/2023 at 4:21 PM, Duc2V4 said:

As for my update, I did speak with SF last week but he was traveling, so our conversation wasn't a complete one. That said, I did offer to buy the remaining 4 units and hold onto them for anyone who either couldn't grab them this production run or for those who just came late to the party.

 

Essentially, the 4 non purchased units would be in my possession and available for sale on a first come, first serve basis. The cost would be the same and of course any additional cost for shipping. My initial thought was to have them all be made as 5 Gen units, that way even 6 Gen buyers could use them, just remove the short amount that makes them slightly different than the 5 Gens. The only issue with this, is that no 8 Gen units would be available for anyone looking for an 8 gen version.

 

If anyone has any thoughts on that topic, please feel free to chime in. I'm hoping to get with SF sometime today or tomorrow to discuss this further and get back to you all. Again, sorry for the long wait but these things too are out of my and SF's hands.

 

Cheers,

D

This post from Duc2V4 is 100% true - he continues to demonstrate what a rock star he is. Everyone who has sent a deposit owes him a vote of gratitude for helping kick this current header order into action. Duc2V4 and I will be taking all the deposits to Wade's shop next week to get us onto his production schedule. We will keep everyone updated here. Cheers!

13 hours ago, Ziffer said:

 

Great news!

 

And I'm ZZ.

Hey Ziffer - thanks for helping us connect the username dots. And thanks for compiling the list of folks interested in headers - this morning Duc2V4 wrote up a draft PM to blast/spam out to all those interested folks so we can get this party started by getting 15 units ordered which will trigger Wade to start bending and welding stainless tubes. Couldn’t have done it without you and the rest of the VFRD community.

On 2/12/2023 at 1:32 AM, Skids said:

do you have any idea when these might start to ship?

 

Not trying to pressure you but I'm just trying to figure when I'm going to fit it and therefore when I need to source the other bits and pieces too. 

Hello gentlemen and Skids [Just kidding Skids...we reserve the right to have good-natured fun with members here]

Best news possible - at this very moment I'm on the phone with Duc2V4 and we are setting up the spreadsheet of deposits received and orders placed for headers. Duc is in great shape, sharp as ever, reviewing this thread and keeping the project on track.

At this time five people have sent deposits for new headers, and here they are. We'll keep this list updated as we received more deposits:

[1] RCNick51 [Possibly has username Motleyfan]

[2] A VFRD member whose actual name's initials are ZZ. We need your username to give you proper credit for your deposit - the note in your paypal transfer had almost all the info but we couldn't locate your username.

[3] VFRCAPN

[4] Skids

[5] CornPoweredV4 

Skids - to answer your question, it appears that we will have deposits received for the fabricator's minimum order of 15 units in around two more months, then construction usually takes around 30 days. Duc2V4 and I are sending PMs to everyone on Ziffer's 'I'm interested' list and we anticipate a positive response, so we are guessing at a ship date around the end of May.

Hi Corn Powered - deposit received. Cheers

9 hours ago, Skids said:

Deposit sent! 

Hey Skids - deposit received. Thanks 

15 hours ago, St. Stephen said:

 

Glad to hear Darryl is progressing as hoped.

 

Yes, my 7th gen was parked outside when you walked into the breakfast place in Kernville, ~2016. Why do I remember? Finally, another rider would be wearing an Aerostich! 

 

Apologies for hijacking...

Ah yes - representing the Aerostitch contingent (laughing). Good times!

15 hours ago, vfrcapn said:

@sfdownhill, to be clear we can go ahead with the deposit, or wait for your PM here on VFRD?

Yes vfrcapn - it’s perfectly fine to send a deposit with the requested information before I get the PMs sent.

vfrcapn and Ziffer have sent their deposits.

On 1/18/2023 at 6:22 PM, St. Stephen said:

 

Please give my best to Darryl. I have enjoyed riding the Sierra with him a few times--well, watching his taillights disappear into the distance anyway--and he is a classy and incredibly knowledgeable guy. Thanks for the updates Lance, much appreciated. 

Hi Stephen - yep, D has mentioned your jaunts into the sierras and what great rides they were. I was along on one of those sierras weekends when you were there (On your 1200 IIRC)…super fun. I wonder if BrianF is thinking about doing the sierras again? If not, I’m pretty sure I can recreate the ‘Greatest Hits’ routes he shared with us.

Darryl came home from the hospital Wednesday. His recovery is starting out well - every step along the way has gone the best it possibly could have gone, so optimism is strong on all friends and family fronts. More to follow.

Congratulations to RC51Nick for being the first deposit placed on this round of headers. We’ll update the list and keep everyone apprised.

On 1/13/2023 at 4:18 PM, Skids said:

I'm sure you will, but please keep us updated on Darryl's progress and next time you see him, give him our best wishes for a speedy and successful recovery. 

Will do skids. Duc2V4’s surgery was Friday and went according to plan - he woke up in  the recovery room and spoke  with his wife and sister same day, albeit groggy from anesthesia. He’s not up to talking on the phone yet, and we don’t know the  results of the follow up MRI, but the surgical crew believe they removed all of the tumor from between his brain and his skull - it’s very good that the malignant tumor was not in or among his brain tissue. Member here shotgonz and I will be visiting him Tuesday and we’ll report back.

Greetings gentlemen. The holidaze have been everything they are cracked up to be - intense, fruitful, and busy.

First of all, let's all send whatever thoughts and prayers we can to Duc2V4 and his wife Katie, especially over the next few days, but also over the next couple months, as he went in for a serious surgical procedure this morning. His spirit is strong and he has prepared well, but what he's facing is much more than a tuneup, and getting back to regular life won't be quick or easy. Godspeed D.

Visiting Duc2V4 a couple times has been a priority lately; he and I have connected on several critical topics, some even more important than headers, so please allow me to beg your forgiveness here for the delays in getting this order under way. I am back home in Las Vegas after logging a ton of miles over the past two weeks. Most of the miles have been in the car or on one of the bicycles, which doesn't make me sad, but am missing the motorcycles. Thinking about riding down the baja peninsula next month. Not sure if I'll rent an adventure bike to keep up with my friend on his BMW GS - he wants to do more dirt and ADV than my 5 gen will tolerate.

D and I have gone through the details, checking pricing on the pipes and passivation, etc. I stopped by Wade's shop unannounced [But brought him a 12 pack of good beer to soften the blow of my surprise visit] and found him grudgingly welding stainless steel - woohoo! He's really building! I wish I had taken a photo of the manifold he built for the monster of a Razr side-by-side that was in his shop...that thing appeared to have 20 inches of suspension travel! The primary headers Wade built all elegantly wound and twisted together to the point where a new turbo was perched. Beautiful work, as usual.

On 1/9/2023 at 12:42 PM, VFR78 said:

On 1/9/2023 at 11:48 AM, Ziffer said:

I don't know. I think the last round was around $1700.

That is about $2500 AUD, about half the value of my bike as it is, not including shipping to Oz. It would be great to have one, but it’s a bit much for this retiree.

So here's current pricing: Headers are $85 more than the $830 they used to cost and passivation is still $90.

[Passivation is acid dipping the finished headers for strength and a beautiful appearance. Please refer to the opening pages of this thread to learn what passivation means for exhaust systems like ours that are made of welded stainless steel].

From here on out, passivation is no longer an option - we are passivating all the headers for several reasons:

1 - everyone who ordered headers has opted to have them passivated [Except two guys back in 2019]

2 - passivation improves strength and longevity

3 - passivation makes the pipes look great

4 - due to external forces, we can't be sure Duc2V4 will be able to monitor the orders as closely as he usually does, so having a single price for every set of headers will help us keep the details straight and deliver a better product to every person who orders headers.

Net result is that a set of headers for 5 gen, 6 gen, or 8 gen VFR800s will cost $830 [old price] + $85 [price increase] + $90 [passivation] = $1005.00 plus shipping [CA residents pay 7.75% sales tax - sorry]. The deposit to order a set of headers is now $300.

Duc2V4 and I will be getting PMs out to all the folks on the list that Ziffer has so helpfully posted here, so if you're on Ziffer's list, expect a Personal Message in your VFRD inbox. The PMs will include instructions on steps to take when ordering headers and a request for info like shipping address, etc.

In a nutshell, in case you're not on the list yet, to purchase headers, here's how you do it:

Send your $300 deposit as 'SENDING TO A FRIEND' via paypal to the paypal account of vfrheaders@gmail.com. SENDING TO A FRIEND will always be capitalized here so it doesn't slip past peoples' perceptions.

In the 'note' section of the paypal transfer for your deposit, please include the following information:

-your VFRD username

-your actual name

-how many headers you are ordering

-what gen VFR your headers are for

-shipping address

More to follow shortly. Onward and upward!

Hi Anonymous,

Thank you for your donation of 25.00 USD. We look forward to improving the forums with your donation.

Thanks VFRDiscussion

9 hours ago, Skids said:

To save trawling through 57 pages, could someone please reiterate whether a PC or other such device is required with this? It's been so long I've forgotten. Any other requirements - mounting etc?

Hey Skids - a Power Commander, Rapid Bike, or other fuel management system is not required, but the VFR's engine exhales so differently with the WiLD headers that it would significantly diminish the effectiveness of the headers to not adjust the inhale [fueling] to match the new exhale [exhaust]. Guys have been getting good results using the Power Commander maps we had done for the headers on 5, 6, and 8 gens, so you can get 98.5% of the benefit of tuning without taking your VFR to the dyno.

But you will need a PC, RB, or other tuneable fuel management system.

On 8/12/2022 at 9:42 PM, Ziffer said:

• Ziffer

• Skids

• DivisibleRex

• CornPoweredV4

• JZH

• vfrcapn

• RC51Nick

• jkboyd

• MikeOConner

• PearlBlueSoul

• SEBSPEED

• Oregonian

• Blessingshawn

• zinsern

• Duste

• Flya750

• davidkohli

• JudgeanJury

More VFR800 headers will be built!

First off - as always - thanks a metric ton to Duc2V4 for all he's done to suit up and show up on this thread and throughout the header project. He is and always has been a stand up guy for anyone who owns a VFR [or any motorcycle that's not a Harley] and has been helping me get through this late fall - solid as a rock.

Second shout out goes to VFRD member Ziffer for posting the latest list [see above] of people interested in headers for their 5, 6, and/or 8 gen VFR800s!

I dropped by Wade's shop last week, totally unannounced because I was nowhere near the neighborhood, 12-pack of 805 ale in hand, and saw him building exhausts. No more hot glue experiments, he's back to cutting and welding stainless steel tubes together. And he's willing to bend, cut, and weld some for VFRs [Those of you who were along at the beginning of this thread recall Wade's rather - shall we say - 'gruff' nature].

Syntax error - my apologies because I just fumbled at the 5 yard line when I went to copy/paste the list above and accidentally deleted 35 minutes of writing I'd done for this post. Sorry but it's late and I'll post again tomorrow with more details. Part of the self-deleted post was me realizing I failed to ask Wade if the price remains the same as it was two years ago when we placed our last order. I'll text him to death tomorrow and get accurate details and instructions posted here.

16 hours ago, JudgeanJury said:

Sorry if I missed it and I know I have some reading to do but I’m definitely interested in a set. Do we know what the cost will be be (roughly) and if they’ll work with my two brothers slip ons? I’m assuming I’ll need to source a merge pipe so the slip ons are irrelevant?

 

im going to go back and read the thread as I’m new here but wanted to make make my interest known.

 

thanks!

Hey Judge - thanks for your interest in a set of the headers. Two Brothers Racing [TBR] slipons work well with the headers - most of the TBR midpipes we've come across have a large inside diameter [id] receiver because they use the OEM 'donut' gasket between the headers and the midpipe. Having a midpipe made to fit perfectly between the muffler and headers is definitely an excellent way to go. As an alternative, a number of folks who have the headers and TBR slipons have used adhesive backed aluminium foil tape and wrapped it around the header's collector exit pipe, adding layer after layer of tape until it facilitates a very close fit with the midpipe. Then they clamp the TBR midpipe's receiver end down over the layers of aluminium foil tape to get a good seal.

On 7/28/2022 at 12:39 PM, Ziffer said:

Going back four pages in this thread (and about a year), here's the updated list of interested parties (including myself):

1. Ziffer

2. Skids

3. DivisibleRex

4. CornPoweredV4

5. JZH

6. vfrcapn

7. RC51Nick

8. jkboyd

9. MikeOConner

10. PearlBlueSoul

11. SEBSPEED

12. Oregonian

13. Blessingshawn

14. zinsern

15. Duste

16. Flya750

So, we've exceeded the magical 15 in just the last four pages. And there is probably more interest out there.

Aloha everyone! It has been more than a minute since Duc2V4 and I have been present here. We apologize for our extended hiatus, but have both been absorbed by and focused on significant life changes, both to geographic location and professional situations, but are happy to be back on VFRD and the header project.

Lo and behold - Ziffer has taken up the cause and compiled a real world list of VFR folks who want headers. Thank you a metric ton Ziffer for going back more than a year and compiling this list!

When Duc2V4 pinged me to point out this level of interest, it seemed that service to the community was definitely warranted, so we checked with Wade to see if he is still up for building VFR headers. Here is where the real world runs headlong into our objective of beginning a new production run of headers: next week Wade is going in for surgery to his right hand because over the past year he has been suffering from increasing pain and numbness in both of his hands, to the degree that he hasn't been able to work the past couple months. We all hope the surgery is successful and will stay in touch with him to learn if and when he might be able to go back to work building exhaust systems.

32 minutes ago, Ziffer said:

Shouldn't there be an official list with phone numbers/email addresses? I stop in here once in a while to see what the status is and I always see someone posting interest in another run. I missed the last run. I don't want to miss another one. With as many people as I've seen express interest, I'd have thought we'd be closer to ten now.

Hey guys - sorry for not being present on this thread for a while. Duc2V4 and I have been struggling with our VFRs and not getting around to checking here. His 108k mile 6 gen was using a lot of coolant, so he decided to put a 5 gen engine into the 6 gen chassis - cool beans. My 5 gen hadn't run for 2 years [Bad motorcycle owner...bad], and when I finally got it running and out to the track, it quit after a lap and a half. I'm about to start a thread on the intermittent electrical problem. Note: intermittent is the most loathed word in all the troubleshooting universe. We'll probably be able to be back here after mid-April.

On 12/7/2021 at 1:02 PM, CornPoweredV4 said:

I know I'm late to the party, but I'm also interested in a set of pipes for my 6th gen 2007.

 

Is there a list to be put on or a deposit that can be made still?

Hi Cornpo. There is not a formal list for another round of headers, but don't write it off. There are about 5 people interested in headers, and that's taken 6-8 months to gather. The minimum order is 15 units, so it's possible that - over a fair amount of time - we'll be able to put together an order.

On 12/10/2021 at 6:49 AM, SEBSPEED said:

I forget if there is mapping available from the development phase? I may soon be in need of a PC3 map for this header/Remus slip on/air filter. Currently running the old CozyE map, but at long last getting into installing some of my hoarded parts.

Hip hip hooray for hoarded parts! Let us pay tribute to our racks and stacks of parts...they'll all be put to porper use in good time.

Seb, yes there are maps for 5 gen [PC3, can be converted to PCV], 6 gen [PCV], and 8 gen [PCV]. Paypal $50 to vfrheaders@gmail.com and let us know which map you'd like.

Hi sfdownhill,

Thank you for your donation of 25.00 USD. We look forward to improving the forums with your donation.

Thanks VFRDiscussion

24 minutes ago, Skids said:

That's very kind of you m8 but i suspect the export /import and transportation charges would make it unfeasible. 

Oy! I completely neglected to check your geographic location! Happy hunting on your 5 gen search.

On 11/15/2021 at 10:06 PM, Skids said:

That's 6 x $ signs! 😬

Even with 6 x $ you’d have a hard time finding  someone who’s installed these headers with the listed items and a good tune who wouldn’t do it all again...I’m getting pissed at myself for not sorting my 5 gen’s injectors so I can get back on the road with it. Not to mention that the Rapid Bike Race with My Tuning Bike autotune will probably benefit from  a track day or two...as will I.

On 11/15/2021 at 2:24 AM, Skids said:

I am looking for a 00/01 VFR800 5th Gen to buy

Hey Skids - not to hijack the header thread, but since you’re looking for a 5 gen to put headers on, I can justify proceeding!

I have a 2001 with less than 10,000 miles that will be for sale in two months (maybe sooner). It’s all stock except upgraded regulator/rectifier, never crashed or dropped, in pristine condition. PM me if you’d like to continue this conversation.