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Given the amount of internal Honda chatter about this bike, I think we are likely to see it here in the US.

I'm in if it comes - ready for something I can put major single-day miles on. Love my VFR, but just can't get the ergos where they need to be for me. Would love to stay with a V4 - love the engine!

Anybody want to view some photos?

That, sir, is a silly question. Of course we want pics!

Arturo Fuente!!! oh yeah!

:beer: :cheerleader:

One question: How many times did you get the valves adjusted?

Congrats on breaking the six-figure mark!

It's a VTEC with new clothing... Crossdresser. :laughing6-hehe:

:blink: :ohmy: :laughing6-hehe: :owned:

I like the commercial and the bike. If Honda brought it here I'd be a serious player for one. The ergonomics are what I've been trying to do to my 6th Gen since I got it... Want to have a V4; want true all-day comfort; want Honda reliability; I WANT THIS BIKE, HONDA!

Yeah I like it the more I see it. Looking forward to seeing one in person.

Planning on going to Europe next year? Probably the only way you'll ever see one in person...

I know, I know, :offtopic: , but it sounds like you are a prime candidate for the new CrossRunner, styling issues aside... :happy:

Brian

Oh, I know - if it came to The States I'd likely be all over it. I've already restyled it for them to suit my personal tastes..

Throw on a shorty Leo Vince Carbon that ended at the rear peg and I'd be good-to-go...

One thing to look for when re-routing is that even though it looks better while the forks are straight, the cables could hit on the out side of the natual bend when turned look to lock, and that could restrict the sliding inside the cable......... Another way to go is to move the grips/bars back toward the tank as close as you can, without hitting the tank with your hands still on the grips.........It changes the hand position on the grips.... instead of holding the grip like baseball batt, it'll be more like the lower hand on a golf club(right hand=for righties)...........I happen to like that hand position better myself, but that is subjective...........

Thanks, Monk - I've got a little room to move them toward me, I'll give that a try!

I assume you have, but have you turned lock to lock to check the tightness?

Yeah, I have - there's still slack in all the lines where the bars sit right now. I think there's plenty on the brake to go up another half-inch, and I could re-route the clutch line behind the triple easy enough which would add some slack to that line if I go higher. The throttle cables are another story - those still appear to be fine with some more room, my ignorance on this is my biggest fear - Just trying not to screw something up on the bike :biggrin:

I searched and found word of someone on another forum that put Genmars under his Helis, but his page on the forum is gone and I can't find him anywhere else - so I don't know exactly what he did to make this work...

I've tweaked my 6th gen to almost perfect comfort with BLS lowering blocks and Heli bars. I want the bars higher, and have even considered an LSL Superbike mod to raise the bars a bit more.

I have the Helis sitting 1/4 inch above the top triple as I read that someone had done this without problems. I've ridden about 1500 miles with this configuration and I was looking at the bike this morning and I can get another 1/2 inch of rise if I simply move the bars to the top of the forks. I'm not worried about the bars not resting on the triple - i've read of a lot of folks just moving their stock bars up without Genmars or other risers without issue. I do have a couple of questions about doing this:

1) When will I know I need to re-route the brake or clutch hydraulic hoses? How tight is too tight, basically?

2) Same for the throttle cables - how tight is too tight?

There seems to be plenty of play with the electrical harnesses to the switch assemblies on the bars so I don't think there's an issue with those.

What say you Modification-For-Comfort gurus?

Technically, this is a VFR-based website, so it'd be weird to discuss issues relating to these non-VFR bikes. Do we discuss issues relating to hawks, hornets, deuvilles, etc.? I'm sure there'll be Crosstour/Crossrunner-specific websites. In the end, as long as it's a motorbike, I really don't care. Just opining.

Well one is based on the VFR800 and the other on the VFR1200. So they really are 'VFR bikes' they just don't carry the moniker in the marketing materials. Besides, HS already set up a spot in the Forums section for them.

Won't matter to us in the U.S. anyway as we'll likely never see them, but our brethren in Europe may be able to benefit from the wisdom here about the bikes their new bikes are based on.

Honda's V4 should be like Truimph's Triple or Ducati's Desmo, or BMW's Boxer - It should be their identity, their differentiator, the thing that makes them different.

It's a great powerplant, they have the technology, they just need to exploit it!

JMHO....

That is exactly what they are doing with their new products!

And bring them to the United States :beatdeadhorse: I know, I know, I'm asking for waaaay to much there...

Honda's V4 should be like Truimph's Triple or Ducati's Desmo, or BMW's Boxer - It should be their identity, their differentiator, the thing that makes them different.

It's a great powerplant, they have the technology, they just need to exploit it!

JMHO....

Here ya go, Honda, Fixed it for ya'...

I'd go with the red and probably paint all the silver/goldish bodywork to match the primary red and lose the Crossrunner emblem. After getting a good photoshop look at it of course...

Any PS ninjas want to give that a run? I'm thinking it would look sweet. I'd leave the black stuff black, but the intercrossing fairing piece and under the tail section would get a good Crimson treatment...

I thought i wanted a TDM or a 6th gen to put higher bars on for total comfort commuting.

Now I want this:

This is, of course in addition to the yellow peril, not instead of, mind you. I think this is a smart, real world bike. It is not the Honda Sport-Bike company, it is Honda Motors.

Couldn't agree more, Timmy! This is what I've been trying to do to my 6th gen since I bought it. Turn it into a real, comfortable, long distance machine. Getting that bar/seat/peg relationship is nearly impossible, if not actually impossible on a 6th gen because of fairing interference with the bars. I'm still investigating an LSL Superbike Bar conversion, but to get the high bar requires new brake and clutch master cylinders, longer everything cables and modifications beyond my humble abilities to make it all work. I may just shell out the bucks to have it done as this bike is not likely to ever see our shores.

My motor/chassis with a truly comfortable riding position - want! Of course I would require the red one...

Optional Equipment

Honda Access Europe will be providing a range of tailored optional accessories for the Crossrunner.

Honda Access Europe, eh? Guess that means we won't see it in the states. Not surprised...

I hope this isn't a 'Captain Obvious' question, but is the possibility of Honda delivering a VFR1200T over and done with given the release of the Cross Tourer?

Not if they're smart. The V4 engine is the one thing Honda has going for them that makes them different. They should exploit the technology and loyal V4 following for all it's worth. Look, there plenty of folks who ride VFRs just because of the engine. Given other choices in comfort and mission they may expand their market share and spread the V4 disease to people who would never consider getting on a sport bike.

Of course, it would be nice if they brought some of these bikes to the U.S.:beatdeadhorse: Are you listening, Honda?!?

Allright, I want one. Probably the one with the ammo case bags and the crashbars, if it isn't too heavy. But I wouldn't kick the other one out of my garage either. Please please please Honda, do send them to the USA...

Ya know, the more I look at the CrossTour the more I like it. If it's got the V4 1200 engine I could probably get on board with this one. I'd be tempted by the Crossrunner, but if the CrossTour comes to the States I may hold off for a bit. If its performance lands somewhere between R1200GS and Multistrada 1200 and comes with Honda reliability - I'm thinking I'm in!

I'll take this one....

If I'm reading the reports right, it's about 27 pounds lighter than a 6trh gen, and down a bit on HP and Torque... Could probably lose another 15 pounds when you replace that ginormous exhaust can..

I would like some rough and dirt (in a pinch) road capability too. But I do not want to put crash bars on ....like my KLR.

Wish I wasn't so smitten with Honda reliability and scared of European bikes reputation of lack of reliability... Ducati Multistrada or Triumph Tiger 1050 would be on the short list...

105-115 horses are enough for me, especially if it's lighter than the 6th gen Viffer. If it comes to the states, I will be an early adopter on this one. Hell, it's what I've been trying to do to my VFR since I got it: Helibars, Lower pegs, etc...

I don't care about going off-road, just want to be able to cruise in comfort the 400 miles to decent twisties and then still enjoy said twisties. Be great if I could do it with a V4!

And I hope it's VFRD worthy....I like it around here :fing02:

It seems to me that this bike will be aimed more at the Triumph Tiger and V-strom type of bike, not the more off road GS series. If that picture is anything to go off, it looks like a more comfortable and versatile update on the VFR800.

Yep - and that's right in my wheelhouse! Of course, we'll probably never see it here in The States, but...

Been using the Sena for about two months now - really happy with it!