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Of course, there are two CCTs and I haven't messed with the other one.

I'll have to update once I do that.

Yes, quite true. Of course if I hadn't been so cavalier about taking about my new CCT I could have figured it out. D'oh!

There has to be a way to find out what that tension should be right? I mean a dealership would need to know that if they were trying to repair a CCT. Then again maybe they would just replace it and stick you with the bill.

Well, if anyone knows then it's the perfect way to fix a noisy CCT with $0 spent!

So after sitting down and figuring out how the CCT works I am a bit sad that I ended up spending the ~$100 on a new CCT to have at the ready for a replacement. I am sternly in the camp that CCTs DON'T "go bad" but rather only require adjustment. Ultimately, as Tightwad mentioned, all you really end up doing is increasing the tension on the spring that extends the tensioner shaft.

This write up details how to adjust the tension on the CCT thereby preventing the need for a replacement. I took pictures of the new CCT that I purchased, however the procedure is no different with a CCT that has been removed by the correct procedure as detailed above. After you follow the directions for removing the CCT you may attempt to adjust the tension by this procedure instead of replacing. In the end I do not know how much tension is the right amount and basically just adjusted mine until I didn't have a noisy CCT anymore.

1. After your CCT is removed the tensioner shaft should be completely retracted and the stopper key in the end of the CCT body as shown below.

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2. Now you need to remove the circle clip that holds the locking tab in place (ignore the fact that the tensioner shaft is extended in this picture). I show here pushing it down toward the CCT body so that at the end you only just need to slide it back up into place.

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3. With the key still in place, slide the locking tab up the tensioner shaft and unscrew the shaft until it is almost fully extended and then lower the locking tab back into place.

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With the locking tab in place and the shaft fully extended, the spring is effectively locked in place.

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If the locking tab doesn't slide all the way into the slots then screw the shaft down until the locking tab fits all the way down into the four slots.

Hold the locking tab down with a finger and remove the key from the back of the CCT. Shaft may move a bit, but should be at the end of its travel which thereby prevents the spring from unwinding. At this point the spring has about the same amount of tension on it as before it was removed, however the shaft is extended now and the tension on the spring can be increased.

4. To increase the tension on the spring insert a screw driver and turn it clockwise. As you do this the tensioner shaft will withdraw into the CCT body.

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Now, how much tension you add to the spring is up to you. I do not know how much is the right amount. When I was messing with it I ended up releasing all the tension on the spring. From this point I chose 5 full revolutions on the spring for the tension I wanted (NOTE: you can really only get 4 revolutions at the most before you will need to reinsert the locking key, unscrew the shaft so that you can get the fifth full turn). I do not know how much tension this is relative to a normally, non-noisy CCT, however I do know that it no longer makes the knocking noise. This is due to the fact that there is now sufficient tension on the spring so that it is now able to keep the tensioner shaft forced up against the cam chain guide. If you do not end up releasing all the tension on the spring as I did then you may only want to add one or two full turns of tension to the spring and then return the shaft back to its original position. Is it pushing too hard? I don't know and you will have to use your own judgment on this.

5. After you have adjusted the tension to your liking keep pressure on the tensioner shaft stopper and insert the locking key into the CCT.

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6. repeat step 3. You have now added tension to the spring and have the shaft extended all the way out.

7. Remove the key and insert the screwdriver. Withdraw the tensioner shaft all the way, put pressure on the shaft and insert the key back into the CCT.

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8. You are now ready to reinstall the CCT back into the motor.

From my understanding of the mechanics of the CCT I believe that using a lighter oil may keep a noisy CCT from being noisy. The spring in the CCT is quite has many windings and using a heavier oil will increase the amount of friction between the windings in the spring. If the spring has already lost a bit of its tension then the additional friction will prevent it from extending the tensioner shaft that much more. A lighter oil will reduce the friction, however, in the end, the spring has still lost some tension and likely needs to be wound up a bit.

If this doesn't clear it up I would recommend either purchasing a new CCT and fiddling around with it or pulling an existing CCT from your motor (make sure you count the number of turn before all tension is released from the spring!!) and figure it out. It is a neat little piece of engineering to figure out if you don't already know how it works.

I am very interested to see if it actually works.

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD,.....

PIN THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!

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You've revamped my interest in trying out a new color scheme!

So here are some pictures my service center sent me of the wire harness.

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Additionally they noticed that the wires to the R/R and stator were pretty well fried as well. They looked at the stator and apparently all but one or two of the coils were charred!! :blink: Thankfully Honda picked up the cost of the stator and R/R! :unsure: I'll post pictures of the stator and R/R when I get them tomorrow.

Make sure your service shop checks these things as well. You could be eligible for some new equipment on Honda!

Well done! Looks great.

I shaved my seat down myself using a regular hand wood saw and some smaller hand saws. It doesn't look that great, but once the seat skin is back on you can't even really tell. Probably the most annoying part was getting the staples back in, but it worked and looks great!

Too bad the owner doesn't have an white 8-spoker for the 6th Gen. That would be sweet.

So does Honda not do a starter valve sync or is that the responsibility of the dealer, in which case it is most definitely guaranteed not to be done?

You know, ever since I heard my 03 without pipes I didn't even feel like installing the new Lazer Xtremes I'd just bought cause I that was the sound I wanted. My dilemma is that a Harley with straight pipes or even just some other custom job rollin' down the road can't be that much louder than a VFR with straight pipes. Why are they allowed to get away with it but if we did it we'd get pulled over in a second? Or perhaps this isn't the case and I should just try my luck cause DAMN how sweet it sounds without a muffler!!!! :beer: