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Whitesnake? ;-)

I don't know what drug you are taking at this moment but take half next time

You don't like Belgians, do you?

There are 10 on the Dutch Forum alright; 6 though are Belgian owners who bought the restricted 116HP version.

4 are Dutch (there is no tax advantage in the NL so there is no power restricted version here); the 1st of which was done for free (I reckon to demonstrate that a full power VFR1200 benefits from a flash; which is reported to be the case)

Uuuuu there we go again...

They do the software update which is a form of flashing as well. Don`t talk to them - take out your ECU and ship it to Guhl.

Where you and Bassie separated at birth and found out that you are brothers here on VFRD ???

I mean we've had plenty of postings saying that "Guhl is God" already and there is one faith but Guhl

I was not, but if you wish I can call You Bassie, Barbara, Anna or whatever you want

I'm not jumping into every thread glorying the all mighty Guhl upon everything and calling those who don't believe as idiots...so I cant be him

I'm paid neither by Guhl nor Bassie. I'm happy with my re-flash but I see some are still looking for another solution - but there isn't any other.

They do the software update which is a form of flashing as well. Don`t talk to them - take out your ECU and ship it to Guhl.

We all know that but Honda see the thing"s different. I just did my ECU reflash so I'm not staying in this "Honda dream" anymore as well.

Then, why to limit the first 2 gears?

The reason is another (I don't know it, Honda does), not the torque limit of Dual Clutch.

Was explained by honda germany few times. In a few words - driveshaft, torque, safety and lack of TC.

Why so drastic meassures? Hell I dunno.

The difference is significant with electrical diagram as in 2012 traction control kicked in. Could you please verify the changes in electrics?

I believe I found the correct Honda OEM number:

65MGE01Z

Not sure what language tho? LOL

No, its a 2010 version. Need 2012 version. Can`t access the pdf to.

New one comes with a new cover as well and you have two versions - volume one only and volume one and two.

I'm not sure how they differ.

Notice how the sellers remove the OEM number - probably cost a lot less by Honda but need to know a OEM number first.

Thanks mate. One option to go with. Still need to ask for shipping cost which would definitely not be low.

I will try to find one in UK first, if unable will order this one.

Just found one in German:

One including the standard version only and double book including the DCT version. Still I would prefer one in English:

http://www.mo-treff.de/shop/product_info.php?info=p3284_werkstatt-handbuch--reparaturanleitung-vfr1200-f-fd-sc63.html

http://www.mo-treff.de/shop/product_info.php?info=p3323_werkstatt-handbuch--reparaturanleitung-vfr1200f-12-sc63.html

Anybody seen a new version of service manual? 2013 model?