Ok,  time to start a new thread concerning the VFR 800 5th gen header build.   For starters,  the who.  Gabe is a high end fabricator, that owns and operates Rampage Fabrication in Olympia & Tacoma Wa. His back ground is in high end turbo manifolds and inter cooler plumping, so tubes are his thing. He is the one actually doing the hands on creation. I'm just orchestrating the process  and handling the R&D and working the funds do to just that,  along with taking the funds for o