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Got the rebuild kit for brake master cylinder, old out, new in

Then XT finally going together, Handel bar weighs on as orginal grips, the air scoops on as tank, front brake bleeded, painted exhaust on

Don't know if you notice but the front tire has been changed, as I bought new the shop only had size 80/90-21 in stock, orginal size is a not so common 3.00-21, the rim is only a 1.60 so to small for a 90/90-21 that needs a 1.85 wide rim.

But the 80/90-21 is quite a bit smaller than the orginal 3.00-21, even the 90/90 is slightly smaller in outer diameter. But then I found one selling orginal takeoffs from a Yamaha WR250R, 80/100-21 is its size, and its very close in size to the original 3.00-21! So as I got a new tire that just been on rim, well ridden home 20ish kms for 30€ I could not resist, it's a Bridgestone TW301, had before on my Tenere 600, know it's ok rubber.

And this picture is after having it running for a while, needs some final touches as carburetor's off one more time as tube between primary as secondary carb is slightly leaking. But it rains today so I'm not that keen for a test ride, even looking forward for it!

12 hours ago, bmart said:

The Bandit 600 is a perfectly adequate bike to do just about anything. And it is comfy!

Indeed, the handlebar is a bit to narrow to my liking but otherwise indeed comfortable 👍

Today season opened 

The Bandit was a positive surprise, ok the aftermarket can a bit louder to my taste but that's easy to fix. Rides good, engine more flexible than I had believe, no sky rocket but still fun.

Well it's still ice on local lakes 

And you had to take it easy as roads partly covered whit light gravel from winter that has not been taken from the road yet

Also a add to garage today, 2 wheels as electric engine that assist as you pedal 

A Yamaha moro07 30th anniversary model.

Some updates on my bikes, the Bandit as XT

The Bandit has now fresh fork seals as oil, legs slides ~10mm up to compensate for the 120/70 front tire as 120/60 is original size

Also did bleed both brakes whit fresh brake fluid as it was quite dark looking and did change engine oil as the crabs had flooded to be safe, as I had oil at home. Was windy as a bit colder today so first ride planned for tomorrow!

XT350, carburetors back together and back on bike 

Also the tank paint damage repaired for now, maybe a full respray next winter?

The tail section arrived today, indeed as nice as in the picture in the add

Here next to the old one

No cracks found on it, amazing!

There is a slight difference between it, it's from a 89 bike, and the 86 one, a cut for the passenger cover are not there, guess the 88-89 cover is missing this slot?

Well I guess I just take them of the passenger seat cover I have ....

The Bandit is finally together 

And alive 

Just need side covers as seat on, then first ride, but will not happen today, have a doctor's appointment in a other city that takes rest of day 

Working on the Bandit 600 today.

Carbs off and apart 

Looks like someone had glued the float chambers to the crabs as one failed and started to leak

So got new, as all O rings as well 

The fuel line could be updated to

Sadly was not my day, of the rubbers for float chambers 2 where good but 2 slightly smaller, didn't work out 

So tomorrow to get a new kit....

Well as you dream something uninspected happen. Found this mint tail section for reasonable money!

So orginal tail will stay 😁

There are some nice, in a way, tail sections awable from German company Pferrer

As Ricambi Weiss

The later cheaper. I do however like the stock design as well and know Airtech Streamlining makes a OEM style one that what I know use the orginal seat also that is nice, as more comfortable.

Dreaming a bit here....

The CBR600 now officially a classic motorcycle (a system in my country) and that means low insurance cost, 33€ a year and I'm allowed to use it for 120 days a year. 

5 hours ago, Captain 80s said:

Oops you're right.  Got mixed up.  Just confirmed here too.  90 - 97 VFR then.

No problem, accidents happen

A thing that has got my interest is that a Honda model that has 41mm forks, use basically a cbr600F2 front wheel ( same axle spacer as design as same wheel axle) and has rake trail figures 26° 91mm, that whit a 120/70-17 front tire (compare to the F2 CBR  25° 94mm whit a 120/60-17 tire), so it's offset must be even greater than the 88-89 VFR750.  It's the 91-01 Honda CB750 F2 Seven Fifty RC42 (Europe, Japan market bike). It also use the bigger 296mm brake rotors as brake calipers as the CBR1000F 89 (SC24)->(before linked brakes)..

It however use a normal handlebar not clipons. But could live whit that. I would just need the fork lowers as both triple trees I think..... I need to do some more investigation to confirm this......

Other things, rear wheel as brake is back on bike

😊

16 hours ago, Captain 80s said:

 

The 88/89 VFR shares the same width / offset as the 90 - 97 VFR and the 90 - 96 CBR1000.

 

The 91 - 98 CBR600 is different.  Same width, less offset.

Hmmm

Looks to me the cbr600F2 as 1990 cbr1000f has same offset, as in picture below the 1000 upper triple on the 600, both on the fork tubes

On 3/17/2024 at 5:17 PM, Captain 80s said:

The width of the triples is the same as the CBR, but the offset is different (CBR is less) resulting in different trail numbers, everything else being the same.

 

They share the same width and offset as 90-97 VFRs and 90-96 CBR1000F.

 

At the time I thought I needed the 88/89 upper triple to match the lower, but I could have used something a little nicer looking from the later VFR.  I don't run an ignition switch on this bike, so I wasn't concerned with mounting or steering lock pin engagement.

Thanks for this information, for some reason I did miss you post.

When you say you could have used a later VFR upper triple you referring to a 5th gen? Interesting if it has same offset.

How much is the offsets difference between the 88-89 VFR triple to the cbr600/1000/vfr750 90-> ?

Well finally remembered to buy some white wheel paint (in spray can), so orginal the rear wheel is white again, not that pretty but will do for one season

Then could not resist this CBR600F front as got it for price of wheel

Came whit brake disc's but no calliper's, tire is rubbish (well used 020 Bridgestone dot 09) and spring adjuster is broken in other leg's cap, but otherwise solid.

Interesting is that the triples offset is same as on 1990 CBR 1000F, easy to find out as I have the parts

Here 1000 on top of the 600s.

So as the 1000 is a bus compared to the 600 the sharper angel as lower profile tire make the 600 dance sharper.

A other difference is the 1000 lower triples has the longer steering axle that the RC24 use if I'm correct. 

So even I'm in for keeping the 16" wheel for now, might do a fork upgrade in a future...

Rear end back together whit fresh rear tire in correct size

So small progress on the XT350

The old swingarm if taken of whit shock as linkage

The good swingarm is painted

The spring on the rear shock I bought was slightly corroded as the adjust ring, so did change them from the one that was on bike, in picture the corroded spring as damper that has damage from the to big studded tire

The front brake M/C needs more than just new scruvs for the cap, a rebuild kit is ordered....

Next the decompression level oil leak, could be done when engine was tilted backwards in frame.

Other than that a simple jobb to do, a bit cleaning an back together whit new oil seal

Did pull carbs apart and ultrasonic cleaned, needs new o rings so still a part that needs to be ordered.... List becoming longer than hopped.

Now I sure wounder what this small box is for, looks like connected to the horn 🤔

Need to check the wiring diagram...

More parts arrivals today.

For the XT350 a missing part

And for the Bandit 600 a not perfect but for money good tank, yes wrong color as has a small dent but good enough to use one season, then repaint next winter

I need to start working on the bikes now. Still picking up a few small parts tomorrow from a local store, then just to start working 

Got some parts for the XT350 parts

So now got the parts to address this problem that former owner did make

Also got a box from CMSNL whit parts for the XT350 as Bandit 600 as VFR ..

Found it issue why other brake pad is angled bad. The plate in bottom of brake caliper has Ben modified badly

This is how it should look

Better

Now brake pads are angeled good

Also got the stripped tread for the plate that hold the pins fixed

Now I just need to find the plate I should have, it order a new one.....

On 1/5/2024 at 4:29 PM, Captain 80s said:

 

There is nothing wrong with how a stock VFR handles, so liking that 16" front is expected. But it sounds like you just didn't get lucky with the geometry throwing parts together.  Slow steering is certainly not a characteristic of a 3.5 x 17 front wheel on a properly modded VFR.

 

 

So I have been looking into your posting of making your bike both here on vfrd as the other forum, so you eventually got 88-89 VFR750F triples. 

I'm curious to know how much apart from each other the fork legs are in them, and what's the difference to a F2 cbr, even I can measure that from my F2.

The idea of later put a other front en on is not in the trash can even I like the stock 16" wheel feel

17 hours ago, fabio222 said:

 

I like your attention to detail!

 

Do the license plates have to be that size, legally, in Finland? If so, is the plate size strictly enforced?

 

Here in Ireland it depends on the Garda (our police). Some don't care, some will use it as an excuse to pull you. 

Thanks, sadly yes there is only one size, and it's quite big, smaller than I Germany through. Some enduro competition riders make smaller size plates somewhere but they get tickets for it usually.

It's details that matter, specially if you like to have a motorcycle pass a classic inspection (to be proved it's in excellent orginal condition), a inspection my CBR600F2 have today. So last minute thing is to change license plate bolts to ones that have a white cap

Much nicer 

Well a small progress on XT, did install the new front tire as brake disc cover

Well I think I have figured out why former owner could not continue the race he entered, the front tire had a bib mousse inner tube that is basically a solid inner tube that give a similar thing as a normal tube whit 0.8-1 bar pressure. The rear has a normal tube so probably the rear bib mousse did melt of the heat ...

Anyway wounder where he found this front Michelin tire, model is C68, never heard of a model named that

The dot stamp says week 45 83!

Taking off the seat to take away the last of duck tape, that is used all over the bike, found a issue that needs to be sorted

Also the air filter was not oiled.... Better go thro the bike good to be safe 

So today got a few boxes again.

First the passenger seat cowl arrived, not perfect but ok, will be painted anyway.

Then from a other place ordered a few bits that are from a 88-89 model, a gear shift level as min is missing the rubber, but even length is same design is sure different!

A pair of front turn signals that I hope to retrofit to the front fairing

Along was also a set of clipons in case I change the fork at some point, forgot to take a picture of them through 

Forgot to mention I did get a set road tires along that was on the bike as former owner bought it, but they were just to throw in the trash can, DOT stamp say 0196 as 4401 (front/rear) so hard as a rock!