mello dude

Well - nice try Veefer! :biggrin: Ok another dumbass question. I have been itching to do a bike - 6th frame and 5th motor, but use the 5th swingarm. Think that would blow up as well? MD

Nice idea! MD

I would be up for the CAD file too..... MD

I had been wondering about Sidewinder and was inclined to try 'em, but I have never heard of anybody using them. MD

Anybody do how to with photos on this stuff? I have a Kerker carbon on my 5th gen and would like to tone the thing down. MD

Still looking for your pin location! Straight or off-set? thax To confuse this even more - The 4th gen bars I put on the 5th gen have the offset pins. I had to cut the pins off to get them to install correctly. I eyeballed where I wanted them and torqued down the pinch bolt. Looks like there were both 4th and 5ths bars with both -- pins offset and centered inline MD

Hey BR.....The offset bars might also be 4th gens. Check to see if bar heights are the same. 4ths are about a bar diameter lower. ---- I intalled 4th gen bars on my 5th. btw- dunno what it is but the survey wont let me vote..... MD

Whoa this is wacko - now I gotta go look..... :huh: The verdict is..... my pins are strait down the centerline across the triples. Learn something new everyday. My bike is a '98. MD

Good luck on the track hack dude! Cant wait to see how it comes out. MD

Great info! MD

Super job! MD

Kudos to you - I am having a hard time visualizing the body work. Isnt the exhaust about where the seat would be? MD

I work in the automotive engineering/manufacturing world for a living. (bleah) The good side of it is I know a lot of people who I can ask to do oddball bike stuff my geek brain dreams up. (very cool) MD

Another curiousity question --- Assuming you started with a stocker triple for baseline, did you do measurements with a basic digital hand held caliper for this, or did you go whole hog and have a CMM house set up and pick-up the critical points and print out the data? (Been there done that.) MD

WOW! WOW! Totally cool! Stem questions - so did you make a stem from steel alloy or is it Honda part? What is the oven/freezer trick? (I can make a guess, but it doesnt hurt to ask.) Again beautifull! MD

Probably the best (but not the cheapest or easiest) way to keep header heat out of the engine compartment is to have the headers ceramic coated. I know JetHot coats the inside and outside of the tubes, so you get a double wall of insulation. Alternatively, you could use asbestos header wrap tape to insulate the headers and keep the heat out of the engine compartment, but I wouldn't recommend it. Several people have told me of their header wrap experiences that ended badly. Basically, the pipes get eaten from the inside out since the heat can get into the pipe but can't escape to the outside, which drives up the temperature of the pipe wall. Ceramic coating prevents this by having an insulating layer on the inside of the pipe. Of course, either method requires pulling the headers off your bike, which would make it a winter project for me. Did the header wrap thing when the bike was down. Cant say anything negative yet. Its a wait a see thing. Temp wise I've seen 230 degrees in 90 degree stop and go. Dunno if the header wrap plays a part or not. The main reason I did it was to insulate the heat baking the Penske shock. Also supposidly there is a bit of a power boost. (Hotter exhaust gases = higher gas viscosity = faster flow = more go) Maybe I should start saving pennies for a Motad. MD

I went to my dealer to order the SH fan and they say they are on back order. Meaning no way can they tell when I would get one if I ordered. Just curiuos - how many of us jumped out and ordered one? New demand - new shortage? MD

You could look at it as that the normal mode of operation when the bike is moving down the road, the air pushing through the front and out the sides of the radiators is the same as the blow out fan? Just a thought.. MD

Ha ha ha. I was just over at Tim's place this evening visiting and I made some off hand comment that he should machine the clamps out of magnesium. Admittedly in my engineering travels I have not had the opportunity to play with magnesium. But doesnt that material degrade over time? (years) Kinda why the major mfrs avoid it for structual parts? I'm thinking 2024 is a strong candidate..... MD

Just for fun - ok I'm a sick bastard..... For the sake of engineering argument on materials, what about a 5000 or 2000 series aluminum such as 2024-T3? The 7075-T6 is strong as hell, but not so great in the fatique end of the stick. -It still maybe the best, just want to here other opinions. MD