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8 hours ago, St. Stephen said:
So...what happened? A few days of "Safari can't find this page" then VFRD life as normal.
thtanner, have you stepped into the gap?
Nothing has changed as of yet; the certificate is still expired. Some browsers will ignore it after a certain period of time (still will show Not Secure in the address bar) and load the site without prompting.
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12 hours ago, Ughandi said:
Whoever is performing the archive, I am more than willing to setup a NAS at home to host an offsite backup image/mirror.
DM me. I've dabbled in computer networking before, and I could make it so.
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EDIT: I may be able to use this FOSS tool called "HTTrack" and make my own mirror of the site.
- I'll determine the size of the download, and I'll be off to buy a buncha hard drives.
- I'll likely perform the task within a VM so I can work the process in tandem. I dont have many CPU cores, but It may help
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If anybody has an ET for the hard sunset of the site, PLEASE let me know so I can gage how much time is remaining to get this done. It will accelerate my decisions.
There should be no need to bog down the poor web server with HTTrack. I am not archiving the site, but going to push to just continue it as is.
I'd hold off on doing such things unless we're unable to keep things going. Those crawlers really spike CPU and Disk IO.-
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No update to share yet, but hopeful!
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40 minutes ago, Cogswell said:
I put a Road Cycle 847 on my 6th gen. Generally it is fine, returning 14.6v - until things get warm. A hot day and / or idling in traffic I'm getting battery voltage, and that's with HID's in place of the OEM headlights. Even revving up past 5,000 rpm or so does not change the voltage. Once moving again and it cools down a bit, things return to normal. Not really a big deal unless stuck in a montster trafic jam. Then it seems a dead battery isn't far off. Jack says "eh, it's your stator". Well, let's see, the issue didn't exist until I made the swap and the stator has less than 10,000 miles on it. Anyone else with a Roadster Cycle 847 having this issue?
Never had an issue charging with a SH847 under any condition. The heat doesn't really affect them in my experience.
I'd be looking at your stator voltages when it's hot. Also make sure it doesn't develop continuity to ground when hot.-
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1 hour ago, Resina said:I am very sad to learn this, although I understand you and would like to thank you very very much for your years of dedication to this forum.
I myself am not a "computer guy", but please there must be someone out there with knowledge to keep VFRD alive.
It will be a shame if such a forum compiling years of expertise and information, being able to achieve great deeds like the performance headers, will indeed come to an end.
If having an annual mandatory fee, let's say €20 for instance, could help another person out there to reach out to @HispanicSlammer and keep on his amazing work, do sign me in.
How many are we here, 200 guys, that's €4k per year, would that be enough?
Let's not let this forum die pleaseeeeeeee someone out there are you reading this 😅
There is no need for mandatory fees. Mandatory fees would accelerate the end of the website, imo.
The website's value comes from the information being available to everyone. Every day there is a new VFR owner, it just is a second hand VFR. Those people end up finding their way into VFRD through Googling their issues. They join the community and it expands! If we were to paywall everything it would basically island the site and that would be the end of it.
The cost isn't a concern of mine at this time.
Miguel is going to reach out when his time allows. I will see if I will be allowed to take over duties and keep things going. If so, I will do just that and things will continue like they always have. I do not want to implement any crazy changes like fees, etc.
I'm not against making new ways for people to donate, such as a Patreon, which would allow you to schedule a monthly donation. I am happy to see people willing to contribute.-
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1 hour ago, Resina said:
Hi
Just to share the same happened to me. My OEM RR died on 2021, I've ordered a Mosfet and still this happened.
I was ridding felt the heat on my leg stopped and saw smoke coming from the fairing.
I will order another RR now from below website per @Mohawk advise, and I guess the big lesson learned here is ditching the connectors and just Solder the Wires.
I would not order the regulator that you linked. I'd order a SH847 from www.roadstercycle.com or Suzuki directly.
That regulator you linked is very low quality and should not be used from my experience. I have seen them fail. They also still cause pre-mature stator failure due to the nature of MOSFET technology. Series rectifiers actually keep the stator cooler! A cooler stator lasts many many more miles.-
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50 minutes ago, flya750 said:
Management of this site can't be that difficult?
It seems to me we could find an IT Guy/ VFR lover who would/could take over the site?
Management of this site can't be that difficult?
It is and isn't. It's sporadic. Easy until there's major upgrades or alterations then it takes time and effort. A lot of the day to day work is that of the moderators.
Having such a large database also makes certain things a little more time consuming or difficult to plan for. It's not the smallest website in the world, but far from the largest.
It seems to me we could find an IT Guy/ VFR lover who would/could take over the site?
I have made a proposal to do such a thing (scroll up to read the full text). Miguel is going to reach out when they are able to discuss.
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1 minute ago, vfrcapn said:
Yes, this, easy enough to set up DNS and redirect to a new domain.
The vfrd domain is registered through August 17th. So we'll just get a cert error after it expires??
After it expires you'll get a certificate error. The domain may be registered through Aug 17, but it's unclear when the hosting end date is. There's domain, hosting, and certificate all with potentially separate end dates.
I don't see any benefit to putting a new name on the site, even for Miguel. He'd still be the founder and have Admin access should he want it. He just would be off the hook for the backend work and money side.
It's very easy to attach another domain to the vhost if that's the path they'd want to take, though.-
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10 minutes ago, mello dude said:
I'm sure several people here have PM'd Miguel about picking the forum up...but don't know what his thoughts are on that....
Anyone have direct contact with him and can mention it?
He did see my initial message as it's marked as read, so I'm still crossing my fingers that we'll be permitted to save the site. I know he wants to be done with it based on his post, and even transferring it to somebody is still a hassle; I totally respect that.On 5/25/2023 at 7:20 PM, mello dude said:Miguel....when d-day sir?
The certificate expires in approx 4h and 10m as of me posting.
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Below is the message I just sent Miguel (for full transparency).
QuoteHi Miguel,
Just wanted to provide more detail into my proposal so you understand where I'm coming from, who I am, what my goals are, and what my capabilities are.
Who am I?
Long term VFR owner, we have 4 in the stable (98,99, 2x 2014). My 98 has a spot in the living room saved for display when I can no longer ride it physically.
I am currently CTO of an ISP and heavily involved in network/systems administration and dev-ops. I have been on the hosting side since the late 90s. I am a certified database administrator among a bunch of other network and system certifications.
What is my goal?
To take over both the administrative and financial burden of the website (ownership, essentially) to preserve the information and keep this resource online as long as possible.
I do not want to make any immediate changes to site functionality. I'd like everything to stay "the same" as much as it can. You'd retain Admin privileges, though I'm not sure you're that interested in continued participation in the site. Moderators would all stay the same, etc.
Why? What is your angle?I have been a victim of the 'Facebook Group' migration since forums started shutting down 5-10 years ago. I've lost so many resources over the years. I reference VFRD at least two dozen times a year when working with people on VFR issues. I can't imagine I'm the only one. I simply want to toss out the life raft and keep it afloat.
I have no monetization plans, nor plans to hock it off to a third party. I'd be happy to sign a gentlemen's agreement as such.
What would you do technically now, and later?
Now, I'd simply get the site up to spec certificate wise, and cross the 'upgrade' bridge with the invision upgrade/server upgrade at the current provider.
After the site was situated, the goal would be to then develop a plan to move the site to its own home on AWS within the year to reduce future costs as much as possible, as well as to make future expansion easier.
Feel free to reach out on here, I @'d you on Facebook, or you can e-mail me tyler@-------.com. Happy to chat on the phone too. I really just want to save this website. I'm willing to put in the work and funds to do so!-
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1 hour ago, Sweeper said:If someone is to save the forum, maybe a name change to reflect the change? I'm sure Miguel has some feelings about his baby going off without him.
The whole point of "saving" the site is for long term information preservation; I want someone who posted 10 years ago to be able to still find and reference their old post, not have to find out what the site is called now.
Miguel would retain full admin privileges, still be the founder, just I'd assume they don't have much interest in continued participation, we'd make sure they were still able to and still have full privileges. In fact, the goal would be to make the site not feel like much all has changed. Maybe up some anti-spam measures, stuff like that, but as far as general functionality, mods, day to day, I don't see much need to start to change things up other than maybe try to jumpstart some more forum activity/events.
I am willing to shoulder the financial burden as well as the technical. Fiscal assistance appreciated, but I am willing to out-right pay for it if needed to keep things running.
On a technical side my plans would be to pay for whatever's needed to keep the site up for a year on the current provider, and use that year to work a transition to our own home on AWS. Try to cut those costs down as much as possible to make it financially viable long term. It'll be quite a project to transition, so having the year to do it would be the play.
I've sent Miguel a DM here, posted both on this thread and the thread on Facebook. If there's interest I'm sure I'll know before too long. I really do want to save this site indefinitely, and don't mind putting in the leg work and funds to do so. The certificate expires today, May 31, so action will be needed to keep things going. If hosting continues beyond the certificate expiration, you can manually 'proceed' through the expired certificate notice. You'll have to do so until (if) it gets renewed.-
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On 5/25/2023 at 3:50 PM, HispanicSlammer said:I have notice that will require a major update, and a renewal of certificates, more license fees.
It's going to be a lot of work and frankly my interest have moved on.
Last year we did not meet the goal, keeping vfrd going has been a lot of work over the last 21 years but I think it is time I moved on. It was a passion and not a business. My goal was never to make money, I did it because I loved vfrs. But over the years I became less and less interested in riding.
I even almost stopped riding. I bought a second bike and renewed my love of motorcycles a couple of years ago, with a smaller lighter bike.
Every time I got on my vfr, my neck, knees, back and well it hurt. So I sold the vfr a couple of weeks ago for a more upright bike. 2020 ktm 1290 gt. I had 89k miles on the veefalo, I got the best miles out of her. But it's time to move on.
Honda has..
Thanks for all the friends, good times, rallys, meet ups, Frankenstein vfrs, turbo builds, tire and oil posts.
I just don't want to do this anymore. I will keep it going until the certificate expires. All good thing must come to an end.
If you want I'll continue hosting and maintaining the invision license. I'm in IT and am intimately familiar with what's required.
Forums shutting down like this is a huge knowledge drain and will hurt future VFR owners as the bikes age into classics and collectables.
It would be a shame for decades of info to be thrust into the darkness instead or kept afloat on a life raft.
We can migrate you to a free LetsEncrypt certificate there's no need for a paid one for a non-commercial site.
Shoot me a message here or Facebook if you'd be interested. I would make no changes, and just continue to maintain it on a technical and fiscal level.
21 hours ago, VFR4Lee said:At the risk of getting flamed, maybe you should sell to VerticalScope or someone like that, Miguel.
Cash in your chips instead of just walking, but the site could live on.
Worked for the founder of Ducati.ms, which is still a good site I may add. 👍
Please, no. Let's stop putting knowledge under their ownership, I've already lost another forum of over a decade to them that they ended up shutting down.-
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17 hours ago, VFR4Me said:
Any 8th gen folks mount one of these without the dyno tune? What are the impressions. How does it run without a tune?
I would not run these headers without a tune of some sort.
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Wish they'd allow us to return the restrictive filter for the new one; I have one taking up space on a shelf. No sense to run it over stock.
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6 pages already.
Honestly this needs 2 threads. An official update/build thread, and the discussion thread. Otherwise I don't know if I want to bother sifting through multiple pages to try to find the updates.
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2 hours ago, FJ12Ryder said:
A washer helper is always a great thing.
Do you use pipe tape, or pipe dope to keep the air from leaking around the threads? I tried using my MityVac
a few times but couldn't stop the air leaking around the threads, and taping all the fittings was just too much
of a PIA. But when it works, it is a great tool.
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5 hours ago, Bent said:
Where can those "things" be bought? Looks enticing to own one.
I got mine cheaply at Harbor Freight.-
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5 minutes ago, Grum said:
Tried out my new $20 Vaccum Brake Bleeder Kit, worked a treat. Then the Red Lady needed a wash, while I had one of these
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Cheers.
Those things make bleeding brakes a breeze. Even my 5th gen took me no time at all a few weekends ago. Amazing tool!
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1 hour ago, GreginDenver said:
By the way, doing "the usual snorkel-flapper mods" isn't really a great idea.
Yeah, there's a lot of back-and-forth argument on this subject but I can tell you that 99% of the guys (maybe even 100%) who argue in favor of this modification have not read Chapter 21 of the 1998-2001 Honda VFR800FI Interceptor Service Manual, which is entitled, "Technical Features".
If you were to carefully read (and understand) the information Honda has provided in this chapter you would realize that disabling the flapper valve and messing with the snorkel is a counterproductive effort. I'm not going to try and explain the whole situation here in this post to your forum thread, but the most important piece of information contained within Chapter 21 is that the VFR800 ECU runs in two different modes, depending on "demand" (which is closely, but not completely, related to throttle position). In conditions of low demand the ECU makes its fueling decisions primarily based on information provided by the Manifold Absolute Pressure Sensor, and in conditions of high demand the ECU makes its fueling decisions primarily based on information provided by the Throttle Position Sensor.
Now I'll leave it to you to carefully read and understand the Chapter 21 information and by doing so come to an understanding of why the snorkel and flapper are installed on the engine (and why the Honda engineers programmed the flapper to open and close when it does).
I second everything you posted.
On 12/28/2018 at 6:09 PM, GreginDenver said:Both of my two 5th Gen VFRs are low-mileage but both of them have a good bit of carbon build-up on the intake valves. I'm currently looking into various ways of cleaning them up.
Seafoam direct into the TB and a smoke show should help clean them up. Always impresses the neighbors when your vehicle becomes a smoke machine /s
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1) Re: Note c - can we have Wade perform the expansion of our midpipe connector for an additional fee? (applies to local members only I'd imagine)
1a) Re: Note c- Possible to pay extra to have the 49mm midpipe connection as modifying a Staintune may be out of the question for me.
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Mine has had ~32-38mpg since 1199 miles on the ODO. I manage 44mpg on the 8th gen. Wife gets 48mpg on her 8th gen, softer on the throttle and weighs less.
Rider weight and luggage also factor in. Heck, so does tire pressure. Rolling resistance goes up a ton even if psi is down by 5-10. -
I told you on Facebook, you are chasing ghosts. Early 5th gens aren't as gas mileage friendly as newer generations.
You describe pretty normal mileage for a 98-99. Sync those throttle bodies (mainly just good maintenance item to do for smoother riding), can take the injectors out and have them cleaned and flow tested, and check the FPR just in case.The 6th gen got better gas mileage, and the 8th gen gets even better.
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6 hours ago, lazyeye said:
Too bad they don't make one for the '14+.
Just send your seat in, they will redo it for you. Discounts also apply to custom services!
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Whatever floats your guy's boat 😉 Your rides.
I am going to shut down vfrd soon
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Glad the site is back in action!
My offer still stands as I don't mind the long term work and fiscal investment. I have ridden with many members here and am no stranger. Don't hesitate to reach out to discuss if you begin to consider to shut it down again as I'd love to indefinitely ensure that doesn't happen.
Luckily I think we are sorted for now. *cheer*