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That hurts me to see....What a beautiful bike..Hope the rider is ok.

It looks like a toy in a bowl of cereal!

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Warren,

Wow. I'm glad that your OK.

You know the saying "all's well that ends well".

Do you think that the ABS on dirt significantly increased your stopping distance?

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Knight, I'm glad you and the bike came through this relatively unscathed.

It appears this happened to a VFRD member while riding with other VFRD members on a ride organized here on VFRD, and really makes me wonder about some things, being a relatively new member and all myself.

Perhaps since this is the "digital age" and since VFRD is, afterall, an online community, if you meet up with other members of the virtual world in the real world, you can expect to have the good, bad, as well as the ugly aspects of the mutual, non-virtual experience exposed in the virtual world, whether you like it or not.

I guess that's just the chance you take?

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Knight, I'm glad you and the bike came through this relatively unscathed.

It appears this happened to a VFRD member while riding with other VFRD members on a ride organized here on VFRD, and really makes me wonder about some things, being a relatively new member and all myself.

Perhaps since this is the "digital age" and since VFRD is, afterall, an online community, if you meet up with other members of the virtual world in the real world, you can expect to have the good, bad, as well as the ugly aspects of the mutual, non-virtual experience exposed in the virtual world, whether you like it or not.

I guess that's just the chance you take?

Do not let your fears get the best of you. What you are saying had nothing to do with what happend.

No matter who you ride with, when you ride, where you ride. Remember 1 thing. If you make a stupid/bad decision, you may pay for it.

Let me rephrase it, Making a stupid/bad decision has nothing to with who you ride with, when you ride, where you ride.

Everything is your choice wether it is good or bad. NO ONE can force you to ride differently then you want to ride.

I have nothing but the upmost respect for Greg and Guy who were riding with me. Both are upstanding guys and I wouldn't hesitate to ride with them again.

That's cool knight....I'm glad you're OK with all of it. I was not posting due to some fear I have, just wondering if it's the generally accepted practice to post up pics like that, and whether it should expected when riding in a group from this community. I had a similar experience when a member of VFRD on a group ride had a minor get-off, and nobody mentioned anything about it on the site until the downed rider brought it up.

I guess I got the wrong impression from your post in another thread.

Well, I guess the cats out of the bag now.

Didn't really want it public but when I jump on the site what's the first F*ing think I see on the home page of all places.... oh well. can't hide from it now, thanks Aussie.

My bad.

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Not everyone can say their bike fell from space and landed on Mars. If you minus the peeps in the shot NASA may be interested.

Glad your ok, sounds like you did a fantastic job saving what you could.

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OOoooh, terrible sight with the R-W-B........... :unsure: Glad you're OK............... :fing02:

After reading the comments.........no one can make you ride over your head, whether it's a VFRD ride, riding with friends, etc. You have to make up your mind what style, speeds, reasons for riding, etc. is for you, then do it everytime out. Real friends never stress other friends on rides. This sounds like one of those "Uh-ohs" that only involved the rider and his bike. The group had nothing to do with the incident. Believe me Joker, you can find some great folks to ride with out of the VFRD Forum. I've ridden with some of the fastest members here, and some of the most rookie newbies in motorcycling. Always had a great time, and everyone enjoyed it........Don't worry...be happy to have you on a Skuuter Crawl anytime........ :fing02: :beer:

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OOoooh, terrible sight with the R-W-B........... :beer: Glad you're OK............... :fing02:

After reading the comments.........no one can make you ride over your head, whether it's a VFRD ride, riding with friends, etc. You have to make up your mind what style, speeds, reasons for riding, etc. is for you, then do it everytime out. Real friends never stress other friends on rides. This sounds like one of those "Uh-ohs" that only involved the rider and his bike. The group had nothing to do with the incident. Believe me Joker, you can find some great folks to ride with out of the VFRD Forum. I've ridden with some of the fastest members here, and some of the most rookie newbies in motorcycling. Always had a great time, and everyone enjoyed it........Don't worry...be happy to have you on a Skuuter Crawl anytime........ :unsure: :beer:

I am going to stop saying anything, because my point, for whatever reason, is not getting communicated. I am NOT implying, nor do I fear, VFRD members influencing the way I ride. That is NOT the point..NOT, NOT, NOT even close!!! :fing02:

The point.....is about how the pictures and information about the crash (AFTER the CRASH) were handled. That is all. But I'm finished trying to get it accross. I'm just not capable. :dry:

BTW..I would be honored with an opportunity to participate in a Skuuter Crawl. :cool:

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Shoot Standing it up almost always results in riding right off the road. Standing it up and hard on the brakes always makes the bike go strait. I wonder what would have happened if you just picked the cleanest line you could see and just leaned it over? You say it would have low sided but maybe you would have made it?

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OOoooh, terrible sight with the R-W-B........... :beer: Glad you're OK............... :fing02:

After reading the comments.........no one can make you ride over your head, whether it's a VFRD ride, riding with friends, etc. You have to make up your mind what style, speeds, reasons for riding, etc. is for you, then do it everytime out. Real friends never stress other friends on rides. This sounds like one of those "Uh-ohs" that only involved the rider and his bike. The group had nothing to do with the incident. Believe me Joker, you can find some great folks to ride with out of the VFRD Forum. I've ridden with some of the fastest members here, and some of the most rookie newbies in motorcycling. Always had a great time, and everyone enjoyed it........Don't worry...be happy to have you on a Skuuter Crawl anytime........ :unsure: :beer:

I am going to stop saying anything, because my point, for whatever reason, is not getting communicated. I am NOT implying, nor do I fear, VFRD members influencing the way I ride. That is NOT the point..NOT, NOT, NOT even close!!! :fing02:

The point.....is about how the pictures and information about the crash (AFTER the CRASH) were handled. That is all. But I'm finished trying to get it accross. I'm just not capable. :dry:

BTW..I would be honored with an opportunity to participate in a Skuuter Crawl. :cool:

Alright Joker, I posted the pic and I believe everyone gets your point . I didn't realise it would be a problem when I posted plus I had no idea it would end up as the Homepage picture. I've since appoligised to the rider for posting and that is that. The reason I posted in the first place was:-

#1 Nobody got hurt, very important fact..............not 1 drop of blood

#2 This is a very unusual spot for a bike to end up wouldn't you agree? Defineately something different that has received lots of inquiries

#3 I never once said who the rider was

#4 AFTER THIS PICTURE WAS TAKEN THE BIKE WAS REMOVED FROM THE MOUNTAIN AND FIRED UP FIRST TIME

#5 Further inspection revealed no broken mirrors, plastic, levers ect, the only broken piece was the surround to the gas cap which a camera mount was attached to, pretty remarkable i'd say!!

#6 Warren rode the bike another 170 miles home after this incident.

I hope this explains alittle of what I was thinking, again I've appoligised and we've moved on

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I am going to stop saying anything, because my point, for whatever reason, is not getting communicated. I am NOT implying, nor do I fear, VFRD members influencing the way I ride. That is NOT the point..NOT, NOT, NOT even close!!! :fing02:

The point.....is about how the pictures and information about the crash (AFTER the CRASH) were handled. That is all. But I'm finished trying to get it accross. I'm just not capable. :beer:

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Ok, I got it now.

1, So, my impression is that if it was a minor incident (not life threatening) Usually the the person who crashed posts up. Usually gives some details why the crash happened, pictures of the aftermath. I believe it takes some balls to post. The post usually has a little educational info in it helping other rider avoiding a same situation. I have yet read a crash report that sounded cocky or too proud. However, these reports usually quite a good read, many times funny.

2, If the accident was bad (life threatening) usually the other riders post up a short story, in some cases asking for some help. This kinda stuff is not good. I do not like to read it.

Was I able to enlighten a little bit? Do you guys agree how I see the post accident posting? :fing02:

ps.: I am glad the bike had hard bags. Otherwise, the bike might had sunk. :unsure:

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BTW..I would be honored with an opportunity to participate in a Skuuter Crawl. :unsure:

Sorry if anything got misinterpreted.......happens sometimes when Folks aren't talking face to face. Harder to talk with these little "Key Thingies"...........ANYTIME............ :fing02: :fing02:

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Quote "Honestly Officer, the GPS told me to turn left. Sooo....I turned left" :fing02:

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Shoot Standing it up almost always results in riding right off the road. Standing it up and hard on the brakes always makes the bike go strait. I wonder what would have happened if you just picked the cleanest line you could see and just leaned it over? You say it would have low sided but maybe you would have made it?

I tried that once in a decreasing radius corner that I went into a bit hot. Centerstand hit the road, lifted the rear wheel off the deck and it was all over. Luckily it was a slow speed corner and I just rolled a couple of times, stood up and surveyed the damage (the bike, not me).

Search for "oxley lowside" on google video - my 15 mins of fame...

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OOoooh, terrible sight with the R-W-B........... :beer: Glad you're OK............... :fing02:

After reading the comments.........no one can make you ride over your head, whether it's a VFRD ride, riding with friends, etc. You have to make up your mind what style, speeds, reasons for riding, etc. is for you, then do it everytime out. Real friends never stress other friends on rides. This sounds like one of those "Uh-ohs" that only involved the rider and his bike. The group had nothing to do with the incident. Believe me Joker, you can find some great folks to ride with out of the VFRD Forum. I've ridden with some of the fastest members here, and some of the most rookie newbies in motorcycling. Always had a great time, and everyone enjoyed it........Don't worry...be happy to have you on a Skuuter Crawl anytime........ :unsure: :beer:

I am going to stop saying anything, because my point, for whatever reason, is not getting communicated. I am NOT implying, nor do I fear, VFRD members influencing the way I ride. That is NOT the point..NOT, NOT, NOT even close!!! :fing02:

The point.....is about how the pictures and information about the crash (AFTER the CRASH) were handled. That is all. But I'm finished trying to get it accross. I'm just not capable. :dry:

BTW..I would be honored with an opportunity to participate in a Skuuter Crawl. :cool:

Alright Joker, I posted the pic and I believe everyone gets your point . I didn't realise it would be a problem when I posted plus I had no idea it would end up as the Homepage picture. I've since appoligised to the rider for posting and that is that. The reason I posted in the first place was:-

#1 Nobody got hurt, very important fact..............not 1 drop of blood

#2 This is a very unusual spot for a bike to end up wouldn't you agree? Defineately something different that has received lots of inquiries

#3 I never once said who the rider was

#4 AFTER THIS PICTURE WAS TAKEN THE BIKE WAS REMOVED FROM THE MOUNTAIN AND FIRED UP FIRST TIME

#5 Further inspection revealed no broken mirrors, plastic, levers ect, the only broken piece was the surround to the gas cap which a camera mount was attached to, pretty remarkable i'd say!!

#6 Warren rode the bike another 170 miles home after this incident.

I hope this explains alittle of what I was thinking, again I've appoligised and we've moved on

Thanks for clearing it up, but please understand, I'm not criticizing and certainly not judging the fact that you posted up the picture. Whether I agree or disagree personally, I was merely asking the question if there is an accepted practice or etiquette about this kind of thing, or if it is to be expected.

Let's face it, we engage in an activity that has some risk associated with it, where tiny errors can have large consequences and costs. These type occurences are bound to happen, and it appears they happen with a relative high frequency with members on this site, which surely also has a great deal to do with the overall size of the community as well.

I would not ride with anyone who I felt didn't "have my back" both on and off the road, and I wouldn't expect any more from a fellow rider than I would be willing to do in return. That includes the way situations are handled in a forum such as this where adding insult to injury is just a keystroke away. I am not saying or asking anything here that I wouldn't say if you were standing right here in front of me.

Good on you for apologizing to the downed rider, and hopefully y'all will have many more fantastic rides together. Hell, hopefully I can join you sometime.

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