Riorider Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 Should I buy a 2014 VFR 800 of the new BMW F900r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Dutchy Posted April 7, 2020 Member Contributer Share Posted April 7, 2020 If you have to ask, go for the BMW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riorider Posted April 7, 2020 Author Share Posted April 7, 2020 Always wanted a VFR sports tour bike...can pick up an almost new 2014 for 7k...or get a F900r for 1700 more.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiutis Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 The beemer is getting lots praises so I assume it must a fun bike. If shorter rides is what you’re up to and hard bags are not necessary, I’d say go naked 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer gll429 Posted April 7, 2020 Member Contributer Share Posted April 7, 2020 this may help a little... https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/bikes/bmw/bmw-f900r-2020-review-spec-price https://www.revzilla.com/common-tread/2020-bmw-f900r-first-ride-motorcycle-review?utm_source=CJ&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=6146887&PublisherName=VigLink&cjevent=2c15f29278ed11ea802c00e40a240610 f900r = another bmw with a hard seat and snatchy throttle. "One result of the wet weather is that I am able to tell you with great confidence that the F 900 R’s rain mode is pointless. As standard, the bike comes with two riding modes — Rain and Road — and you can pay more to get Dynamic and Dynamic Pro. You will never want to use Rain. BMW should rename it “Sadness.” Choose this mode only if your life is full of too much joy, or if you’re lending the bike to a friend and you want him to give up motorcycling" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riorider Posted April 7, 2020 Author Share Posted April 7, 2020 Ok then..... My Honda dealer stated that I would have a long term relationship with the BMW dealer if I purchased a beamer...unlike him...hint service time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkie Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 If you buy an almost new 2014 Vfr800 for $7,000, it had better come with full luggage, and at least fifteen hundred bucks cash in the top case! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer ducnut Posted April 7, 2020 Member Contributer Share Posted April 7, 2020 Tracer GT before that BMW. One would be a fool to buy a BMW, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer lazyeye Posted April 8, 2020 Member Contributer Share Posted April 8, 2020 What is your preferred riding style? What do you want out of the bike? Do you want to do your own maintenance on it or have the dealer do it? They're both fantastic machines, just different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Skids Posted April 8, 2020 Member Contributer Share Posted April 8, 2020 Have you test ridden them both? If not, it's pointless asking others when we're talking about $7k+ as it's YOUR opinion of the ride that counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riorider Posted April 11, 2020 Author Share Posted April 11, 2020 On 4/8/2020 at 11:29 AM, Skids said: Have you test ridden them both? If not, it's pointless asking others when we're talking about $7k+ as it's YOUR opinion of the ride that counts. Have not ridden a VFR... Ridden dirt and naked Japanese bikes whole life....will I really miss new ride modes....fly by wire....ad older now... do I need a slipper clutch banging in and out of Rocky Mtn tight road turns...is the VFR I want to take on a two week 2500 mile ride road trip... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkie Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 34 minutes ago, Riorider said: Have not ridden a VFR... Ridden dirt and naked Japanese bikes whole life....will I really miss new ride modes....fly by wire....ad older now... do I need a slipper clutch banging in and out of Rocky Mtn tight road turns...is the VFR I want to take on a two week 2500 mile ride road trip... If you love the v4, then the vfr is your ride. I love the Honda v4. Wouldn't ride anything else. I've ridden two week 5000 mile trips on it. I've ridden a 1050 mile day on it for a certified ironbutt ride. Had it up Pike's peak and on the Tail of the dragon. Show me another bike that has a 250 mile per tank range, that offers all day comfort to cross the country, then is ready to tear up the mountain roads when you arrive. Will you feel the same way, I just can't tell you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Cogswell Posted April 11, 2020 Member Contributer Share Posted April 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Riorider said: Have not ridden a VFR... Ridden dirt and naked Japanese bikes whole life....will I really miss new ride modes....fly by wire....ad older now... do I need a slipper clutch banging in and out of Rocky Mtn tight road turns...is the VFR I want to take on a two week 2500 mile ride road trip... If you can manage a VFR test ride, if you can, try to make it with one that has an aftermarket exhaust. The sound is so intoxicating that on my first ride I was like "Wood" in Top Gun - "I'm gettin' a hard on!" Despite its complexities, the V4 is probably the most perfect motorcycle engine - narrow like a V twin, revs like an inline 4, well balanced and has a wide powerband. The VFR may be the best all 'round design ever. It's not good at being the best at anything, but it is the best at being good at everything. For a track day, 4000 mile trip with luggage, rippin' through the twisties or just heading over to see the G.F., it can do it all. Heck, when you arrive at the GF's, it might even help you "get lucky"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Grum Posted April 11, 2020 Member Contributer Share Posted April 11, 2020 Absolutely Ride Them Both. As already stated they are very different ride types and engines. Only you can decide based on price, the ride, looks, maintenance costs, where you want to travel, how the bike fits and feels to you. I will say the 8gen VFR is an incredibly reliable machine with the previous generation electrical issues all sorted. We are all biased VFR nuts on this site, so what bike do you think we would want you to buy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer VFR78 Posted April 11, 2020 Member Contributer Share Posted April 11, 2020 The BMW F800XR looks like the ideal sports tourer, but with a 15.5 litre tank, won’t get you far without a refill. Fuel range on the Viffer is stupendous. I have done an 11,000km jaunt across Australia, and back, on mine and it performed flawlessly. Also, the motors of the BMW F900R and XR are made in China. I know that should not be a problem, but the VFR800F motors must have a better pedigree. I have also been told, by a previous owner of a BMW parallel twin (now on a Tenere), that things like radiators can be mounted on plastic that can fail. In his words “a Japanese engineer would commit Hara Kiri” over some of the design flaws. My 2014 VFR has close to 50,000kms on it and I was seriously considering the Bimmer as a replacement, but every time I ride the Red Rocket, I think it is the perfect all around bike. Sure, it doesn’t have a slipper clutch, cruise control or ride by wire, but it is a great bike and I can’t understand why it hasn’t sold in boat loads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riorider Posted April 11, 2020 Author Share Posted April 11, 2020 You are all right in your personal assessments...and I am against on anything made in China now....bring it all back to the US.... It's VFR 800, Yami Tracer 900....Triumph 800/900 Tiger....but...have always been Honda and Yamaha....that's where I'm at...Japanese.....my first bike....a Honda Trail 70... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riorider Posted April 11, 2020 Author Share Posted April 11, 2020 If everyone here can ride in harmonic V4 style....without a slipper clutch....hell, none of my past bikes had slipper clutch or cruise control. Which you can add to the VFR....guess I can too... Rocket Red Deluxe 8th Gen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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