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A pre-production prototype header assembly with specifications nearly identical to the Two Brothers Racing [TBR] 5th gen VFR 800 header is now being constructed in southern California.

 

This is a new thread duplicating a post on the VFRD '5th & 6th VFR 800 Header build' thread. The objective of this new thread is to give the project described below an opportunity to stand on its own four cylinders. There is a metric ton of valuable data and opinion on the old thread, so if you're new to VFR headers and curious about the gestation of this project, don't deny yourself the pleasure of reviewing it.

 
Here is photographic evidence of the work in progress. This photo shows the jig that has been fabricated in order to get the proper layout of the performance headers. Photos taken 12/26/2018:
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*Acknowledgements:
 
From the start of this project, we knew we'd need help, and so sought assistance from some very well respected, long time VFRD members.
 
Special thanks to VFRD member Cornercarver for the generous and trusting loan of his prized, irreplaceable [Until now!] set of original TBR headers.
 
We also would like to thank VFRD member RVFR for his support of this effort through contributions from the 2017 gofundme header fund.
 
Contributing members - all massively experienced and extremely helpful - include but are not limited to: Sebspeed, Cornercarver, TimmytheCop, MiniCarver, BusyLittleShop, BuzznerSuntrusts, RVFR, Mohawk, Mello Dude, CandyRedRC46, Stray, keef, voided76, and 3dcycle. Our sincere thanks to all these individuals and others for their wise counsel. Without you, we could neither be getting a prototype built, nor could we have established a path to a production version of this performance header.
 
 
*General information / major bullet points:
 
[1] The production version of the performance header assembly described here will be hand built in southern California and cost $790.00 plus shipping from the manufacturer. California residents need to add 7.75% state sales tax.
 
[2] The header will fit 5th and 6th gen VFR800s. [8th gen owners, see Note 'a' below]
 
[3] The header will go into production when orders for 15 units are received with a $200 deposit per unit.
 
[4] The prototype header is scheduled to be completed by 1/11/2019.
 
[5] A baseline dyno run of a VFR fitted with 98/99 headers and same day/same dyno full tune of the same VFR with prototype header installed is scheduled for the week of 1/14/2019. [Dyno testing methodology is detailed under 'Dyno testing procedure']
 
[6] The list below of deposits received will be kept updated, and we will be adding a second list of individuals interested in seeing the dyno results before placing a deposit.
 
If you are interested, PM us and let us know the following:
a] which gen VFR [5th, 6th, or 8th] you would like a header for
b] which fueling management system you use or intend to use
c] which slipon muffler/midpipe you have or will use
d] if you intend to have your exhaust system dyno tuned
e] if more than one unit, how many headers you are interested in purchasing
f] if you are placing a deposit
 
*A LIST - 5th gen/6th gen header orders with deposits received:
1-Duc2V4           5th gen          Rapid Bike                                TBR slipon                               yes dyno tune        1  5/6th [maybe 2nd header for 6th gen]
2-VFR7503        6th gen          PC3                                           has TBR and Leo Vince          maybe dyno            1  5/6th
3-WackenSS      5th gen          PC3 [RB in future]                     Leo Vince                               yes dyno                  1  5/6th
4-jim v                6th gen          PC3 [maybe RB in future]          Micron                                    yes dyno                  1  5/6th [maybe full system]
5-MadScientist   5th gen          PCV w autotune                        Micron low, MIG high               autotune [maybe dyno]  1  5/6th
6-bornes            6th gen          Rapid Bike                                SC Project CR-T                      yes dyno                 1  5/6th
7-Airisom           5th gen          PC3 or PCV                               Delkevic                                  yes dyno                  1   5/6th
8-CornerCarver 5th gen          PC2 or better                             Wolf [sweet!]                               yes dyno                  3   5/6th
9-CC                  5 eng in 6 chassis PCV                                    Staintune                                yes dyno
10-CC                6th gen           Rapid Bike                                 OEM                                       
11-Sebspeed      5th gen                                                                                                                                             1  5/6th
12-Mbrane          5th gen          PC [which PC TBD]                    miscellaneous                         yes dyno                    2  5/6th
13-MBrane
14-interceptor69 5th                PC3                                                 Vance & Hines                           no dyno                        1 5/6th
15-3Dcycle         6th gen                                                                                                                                          1 5/6th
16-moosemoose 5th gen          RB                                             Delkevic                                                                   1 5/6th
17-sfdownhill       5th gen          PC3                                           Staintune                                 yes dyno                   1 5/6th
18-EX-XX            5th gen           PC2                                             Custom midpipe/slipon                 yes dyno                     1 5/6th
19-GreginDenver 5th gen         TBD                                                                                                                                             1 5/6th
20-Funkatron     5th gen          PC3                                                 TBR                                            maybe dyno                    1 5/6th
21-Tirso              5th gen          PC3/PCV w auto                           Staintune                                        no dyno                     1 5/6th
22-8th gen prototype
 
LIST 8 - 8th gen headers with deposits received
1-HighSideNZ  8th gen header  6 chassis /825cc 5eng/front rad  Rapid Bike Leo Vince                                                  1  8th
2-Fz6wja                                                                                                                                                                                           1  8th
3-samuelx                                 PCV                                                  Yoshimura                                      yes dyno                     1  8th
 
*B LIST - parties interested in purchasing a 5th/6th gen and/or 8th gen header who prefer to wait before placing a deposit:
-Samuelx        8th gen          RB or PCV                                  current Delk, Yosh, OEM         maybe dyno            1  8th
-Voided76      8th gen           Rapid Bike                                 Assorted slipons                                                       1  8th
-Stray              8th gen header front rad 5th                                                                                                                1  8th                                                                               
-boOZZIE        6th gen          Rapid Bike                                  Micron                                        yes dyno                  1  5/6th
-RC51Nick      6th gen          Rapid Bike/autotune                Staintune                                    autotune                  1 5/6th
-carlgustav     6th gen          Rapid Bike                                  M4                                               no dyno                   1  5/6th
-CornerCarver  8th gen header front rad 5 eng in 6 chassis PCV Staintune                        yes dyno                  2  8th
                         8th gen header front rad Torocharged 6 gen Rapid Bike  Staintune            looking for a dyno capable of handling it
-Sebspeed      8th gen                                                                                                                                                      1 8th
-MooseMoose 5th gen       Rapid Bike/MyBikeTunig          Delkevic                                                                         1 5/6th     
-adkfinn          5 gen              PC3                                             Black Widow                             yes dyno                    1 5/6th
-fly750            8th gen                                                                                                                                                       1 8th
-neo2122        6th gen         OEM/PC3                                    Delkevic                                     yes dyno                    1  5/6th
-wholepailofwater 5th gen     OEM/TBD                                   Staintune                                                           1 5/6th
 
 

 

*Background:

 
Over the past year, VFRD member Duc2V4 and I have made an exhaustive [ouch!] search for a manufacturer/fabricator qualified and willing to produce a reasonably-priced, high quality "replica" of the Two Brothers Racing 5th gen header assembly. The TBR is the accepted standard in production VFR performance exhaust systems. After unproductive efforts with several fabricators, in August of this year we were referred to and contacted a gentleman named Wade, founder of an established southern California exhaust manufacturing firm. Wade expressed interest in taking on this project. Communications about and development of this project have continued with Wade since August and resulted in the construction of the fixture pictured above, along with a pre-production prototype header, a dyno testing schedule, and a commitment to build a production run of 15 units.
 
 
*Dyno testing procedure:
 
Testing will consist of a baseline dyno run of a 5th gen VFR with OEM 98/99 headers installed [See Note b below]. After the baseline run, the test VFR's 98/99 headers will be removed and replaced with the prototype performance header assembly. On the same day as the baseline run, a full dyno tune will be performed on the subject VFR with performance header installed. The dyno tune will be performed on the same dyno by the same dyno technician, with the same air filter, same fuel management system, and same midpipe/muffler.
[Test subject VFR is described in 'Test bike']
 
 
*Some dimensions, features, and specifications of the header will be taken from the TBR.
The new header will incorporate the following specifications from the original TBR header design:
-header construction will be from 18 gauge 304 stainless steel tubing, [0.049"/1.24mm wall thickness]
-header will have 38mm od primary tubes [1.5" od]
-header will have 41.5mm od secondary tubes [1 5/8" od]
-header will have 51mm od collector tubing [2" od]
-header's rear primary tube junctions will be fastened by spring tension fittings
-header's left front and left rear primary tubes will merge
-header's right front and right rear primary tubes will merge
-header will have no crossover of front or rear primary tubes
-header's collector exit tube will have a 51mm od [See Note c below]
-header's tubing will be mandrel bent
 
 
*Some specifications will be changed from original TBR header design.
To align with the VFR community's objectives and improve durability, the header will incorporate the following changes to the original TBR header design:
-header's collector exit pipe will be modified to match position and angle of OEM collector exit pipe
-midpipe/muffler/clamp to be supplied by customer [See Note c below]
-midpipe/muffler to be fastened to header collector exit pipe by clamp
[Clamp not supplied with header]
-header will have two O2 sensor bosses at 2000-2009 OEM header's O2 sensor locations: one O2 sensor boss on secondary tube after left front/left rear primary merge, one O2 sensor boss on secondary tube after right front/right rear primary merge
-right rear primary tube of all headers will be mandrel bent to provide 1/16" clearance from rear head cam chain tensioner when installed on 6th gen VFRs
-header's stud nut tension flanges will be 1/4" thick stainless steel [See Note d below]
-header's collars at head end of primary tubes will be reinforced and length adjusted for 1/4" head stud fixing flanges
-header's internal flow surfaces at head end collar joints of primary tubes will be finished smooth/flush [See Note e below]
 
 
*Wade's credentials:
Wade designed and built exhausts for Kerker Exhaust Systems from 1980-1988. Since founding his own exhaust fabrication business in 1989, he has produced custom, prototype, and production exhaust systems and components for numerous individuals and manufacturers, including Two Brothers Racing. He builds a production aftermarket full exhaust system for a current non-Honda V4-powered motorcycle. Here are two of his current projects. Photos taken 12/27/2018 and 12/28/2018 :

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*Test bike:
 
For initial testing, we will use this motorcycle [Or possibly our 6th gen - see Note b below]:
2001 California 5th gen with 60,000 miles
K&N big mouth air filter [See Note f below]
PC III USB, map dyno tuned in 2013 with OEM California ECU, no O2 sensors installed
Dynojet O2 sensor resistor terminations installed on OEM O2 sensor leads
OEM 49 state ECU now installed, PC III not retuned, no O2 sensors installed
OEM 98/99 VFR headers ceramic coated with Staintune high mount slipon.
Maintenance performed before dyno testing:
New air filter, new Denso iridium IUH27#4 plugs, valve clearance adjustment, injectors professionally calibrated, starter valves synched, new thermostat, new silicon coolant hoses, new Engine Ice coolant, oil and filter changed w Mobil 1 0w-30 and Purolator PBL14610 filter
 
 
*Notes:
 
Note a - an 8th gen version of the performance header with 'widely spaced' front primaries is in the works for a production run to follow the initial production run of 5th/6th gen headers.
 
Note b - If there is significantly greater interest in proving the prototype header on a 6th gen, we have a 6th gen standing by and can use it for the dyno baseline run and test/tuning instead of the 5th gen. For 6th gen test/tuning, we will use the same dyno testing procedure at the same test/tune facility as described for the initial 5th gen test/tune. The 6th gen available for testing currently has ceramic coated 98/99 headers installed with gutted OEM mufflers and a PCV. We would obtain open flowing aftermarket 6th gen slipon mufflers to optimize testing of the prototype header.
 
Note c - Wade recommends keeping the the 51mm od collector exit pipe instead of reducing it to the OEM exit pipe's 49mm od for the following reasons:
1 - it is probable that reducing the collector diameter will have a [small] negative effect on top end performance
2 - Wade uses premanufactured tubing merges of very high quality. Reducing the collector diameter would mean that the collector merge exit diameter would be too large for the 49mm od exit pipe, and the labor required to adapt the two components would raise the cost.
3 - purchasers of a replica header who want to use aftermarket slipons can have the collector end of their slipon expanded to fit the 51mm od exit pipe by any competent exhaust/muffler shop. Two Brothers slipons  and OEM mufflers will require exhaust wrap to function as a gasket in place of the OEM 'donut' gasket.
4 - the collector joint of all slipon midpipes we could think of except TBR are 2" od and slotted at the clamping end. Wade was concerned that a 2" od midpipe that has been slotted to clamp onto the OEM collector pipe is likely to tear at the base of the slots when expanded.
IMPORTANT - when having a slipon's midpipe expanded to fit this performance header, make certain the muffler shop expands it gradually in two or more small steps. Wade recommends drilling a relief hole at the muffler side ends of the midpipe's slots to distribute stress and reduce the possibility of tearing. Wade tested the viability of expanded slotted 304 stainless steel 18 gauge 2" od tubing by slotting a piece of 2" tubing while I was at his facility. He then expanded the slotted end of the tube in two steps to fit over the 51mm od collector exit pipe with no tearing at the slots.
 
Note d - Here is Wade's 1/4" thick stainless steel head stud nut tension flange:
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Here is the original TBR head stud nut tension flange [Note that flange is bent from tension]:
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Note e - Original TBR has rough, unfinished joints in the internal flow surfaces at head end collars of primary tubes
 
Note f - See RVFR's June 8 2017 post on page 5 of vfrd thread '5th & 6th VFR 800 header build' for photos of standard vs big mouth K&N air filters. Both filters have K&N part number HA-8098
 
Note g - Significant improvement can be achieved over OEM gas flow through the exhaust port into the header primaries by using crush gaskets that do not intrude into the gas flow path when installed. The id of OEM VFR crush gaskets reduces to around 30.41mm when installed with header stud nuts torqued to spec. The exhaust port id is 32.45mm - that's a 2mm reduction in gas flow passage diameter. To solve this, we will be confirming Mohawk's recommendation to use GSXR750 crush gaskets between the performance header primaries and the VFR's head.
 
Note h - Wade has expressed a modest willingness to build complete exhaust systems in high or low mount configurations for 5th gen VFRs. These full systems would have the same specs as the full systems that were the only configuration in which TBR sold the VFR headers - the TBR headers were only available with a matching midpipe and muffler/canister. Mufflers built by Wade would be available in metal or carbon fiber. We neglected to ask Wade which metals he uses for muffler/canisters or what a full system would cost, but soon will ask him to specify materials and pricing. We have not yet introduced the possibility of Wade building a 6th gen full system, but will ask him if he'd consider it.
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Thanks for the heads up!

 

Where in So Cal - is there a reason why the name of the shop is not listed/mentioned?  I'm assuming it's in Orange or San Diego county?

Re: Note a - Can an 8th gen order be included in the initial group order or does he require an additional 15 orders solely for 8th gens? 

Do the two O2 sensor locations from the 6th gen also work properly for the 8th gen?

Also just curious, will the exhaust system differ based upon what kind of fuel management, what kind of muffler, or whether or not dyno tuning will be performed?

 

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1) Re: Note c - can we have Wade perform the expansion of our midpipe connector for an additional fee? (applies to local members only I'd imagine)

1a) Re: Note c-  Possible to pay extra to have the 49mm midpipe connection as modifying a Staintune may be out of the question for me.

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2 hours ago, Samuelx said:

Thanks for the heads up!

 

Where in So Cal - is there a reason why the name of the shop is not listed/mentioned?  I'm assuming it's in Orange or San Diego county?

Re: Note a - Can an 8th gen order be included in the initial group order or does he require an additional 15 orders solely for 8th gens? 

Do the two O2 sensor locations from the 6th gen also work properly for the 8th gen?

Also just curious, will the exhaust system differ based upon what kind of fuel management, what kind of muffler, or whether or not dyno tuning will be performed?

 

 

Good questions, Samuel.

1 - we have chosen not to list the fabricator’s website or exact location because, in the past, several potential manufacturers and distributors of headers have been driven away when multiple enthusiastic VFR owners - with only the best of intentions - went around the member already in contact with the supplier, directly calling and emailing the supplier into a frustrated state of disinterest.

 

2 - on Note a, we have discussed with Wade  the differences between 5th/6th gen headers and those for 8th gen. Because the headers will be constructed on an assembly line in jigs/fixtures that facilitate a specific confguration, production runs of 15 units will happen for one configuration at a time. Part of producing the 8th gen header will probably be making the front primaries modular so that a rear primary/collector assembly can be designed to fit all three gens - 5th/6th gen or 8th gen front primaries can then be selected depending on which gen the customer has requested headers for. Getting Wade to buy in to the viability of this project was tough. The more we demonstrated a fully developed objective with no complicating variables, the more willing he became to participate. As a result,  distilling the first production run to a single configuration that matched the sample TBR we had on hand was mandatory.

 

3 - nope, each 5th/6th gen header will be exactly the same. Detailed specs are listed in the original post.

 

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1 hour ago, thtanner said:

1) Re: Note c - can we have Wade perform the expansion of our midpipe connector for an additional fee? (applies to local members only I'd imagine)

1a) Re: Note c-  Possible to pay extra to have the 49mm midpipe connection as modifying a Staintune may be out of the question for me.

 

Hi Tanner

1 - on Note c, yes, purchasers of headers can send or bring their midpipe/slipon to Wade’s shop to have it expanded. Expansion is literally a 5 minute task with the right tool - a hydraulic pipe expander. I’ve watched Wade do it. It will be much more cost and time efficient to stop by a quality local exhaust shop that has a hydraulic expansion machine and hire them to expand a midpipe as described in OP.

 

1a - the tough answer is that no changes will be made to the specifications of units in the first production run. It will help if all of us, as a single community, think of our group as being in a position to respect the fabricator’s process and continue to earn his trust as we simultaneously motivate him to take on a second production run of VFR headers. There may be a possibility of opting for a 49mm exit pipe in later production runs, but probably not.

The pleasant answer is that like you, I have a Staintune slipon and will be having its clamp end expanded to fit the new headers. I will report back to you as soon as my pipe has been modified. For expanding mine, I plan to use a known auto muffler shop within 2 miles of my home that has done automobile catalytic converter work for me, friends, and family members.

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I'm in for the 8th.  no questions asked.

Also let wade know I have the modded airbox,  rapid bike race with ignition timing/fuel control,  pipercross air filter,  short med. and long mufflers standing by for tuning once he gets the 8th header out.  I could take some leave maybe if you guys need a bike.  or if you had a VFR in trade for a week or two while fabbing.  ^_^ Cause I daily drive the '14

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Wow Lance and Duc2V4 - you guys are AWESOME! 

 

Congratulations on succesding where so many others (including myself!) have failed. You’re a credit to us and I’m very grateful - I know you’ve been beavering away at this for a long, long time. 

 

When the 8th gen run begins I’ll put my name down for one (want a front-mount rad on my 5th gen). 

 

Once more: WELL DONE AND THANKS! 

 

Stray

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Hi guys

 

Great going with this.  It has been a looooong road to get to this point.

 

I too am interested in an 8th Gen set due to my modded radiator setup with now no side rads at all.

 

Keep us informed as to when it is getting towards the 8th Gen set heading to production and I'll chip in my deposit.

 

I'd need to get is shipped to New Zealand, would that be possible?

 

Cheers

Phil

 

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Voided 76, Stray, and HighSideNZ - we are getting a lot of responses from 8th gen owners, which is very cool! I'll add you three to the list I'm about to start; the B-list [no offense intended if you end up on the B-list] which will consist of people who are interested in purchasing a header, but would prefer to wait before placing a deposit.

 

Check out my response to Samuelx 3 or 4 posts up from this one - it includes information about developing this header for the 8th gen.

 

HighSideNZ - I'm sure shipping to NZ can be arranged. Maybe you could PM with some coaching on the best way to accomplish this?

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In for 5th gen full system. What's the muffler gonna be? I like the sound of my Delkevic 8" slip-on, so I'd like something similar with minimal baffling.

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1 hour ago, Airisom said:

In for 5th gen full system. What's the muffler gonna be? I like the sound of my Delkevic 8" slip-on, so I'd like something similar with minimal baffling.

 

Hi Airisom - thanks for your interest! As Note h in the OP vaguely states, we have not pinned down the 5th gen full system specs or pricing beyond "It can be high or low mount, and the muffler canister can be metal or carbon". Sorry. We're doing our best not to tip the boat with any variables until we have the prototype in our hands, but we'll get on the 8th gen header, 5th gen full system, and, if at all possible, a 6th gen full system once the prototype testing is done and the first production run is under way. [ps on the QT, I'm leaning toward a full system for my 5th gen and once we get to that point, will attempt to nudge the design toward spring tension fittings between the header and the midpipe]

 

PM for info on making a deposit or to be added to the B list, which is the' interested but not quite ready to make a deposit' group. Include answers to the informal survey so we can keep our thumbs on the pulse of the project.

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Like highside NZ, since ive got a front mount rad, and low mounted oil cooler, the 8th gen splayed pipes would come in handy for me  and my 5th gen too.

Nice work, we are almost up and running.

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2 hours ago, Voided76 said:

SFD I have the money up front if need be.  again.  I got money,  AND time,  currently.

 

Cool - thanks Voided76. PM sent.

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On ‎12‎/‎30‎/‎2018 at 12:10 AM, sfdownhill said:

 

Good questions, Samuel.

1 - we have chosen not to list the fabricator’s website or exact location because, in the past, several potential manufacturers and distributors of headers have been driven away when multiple enthusiastic VFR owners - with only the best of intentions - went around the member already in contact with the supplier, directly calling and emailing the supplier into a frustrated state of disinterest.

 

2 - on Note a, we have discussed with Wade  the differences between 5th/6th gen headers and those for 8th gen. Because the headers will be constructed on an assembly line in jigs/fixtures that facilitate a specific confguration, production runs of 15 units will happen for one configuration at a time. Part of producing the 8th gen header will probably be making the front primaries modular so that a rear primary/collector assembly can be designed to fit all three gens - 5th/6th gen or 8th gen front primaries can then be selected depending on which gen the customer has requested headers for. Getting Wade to buy in to the viability of this project was tough. The more we demonstrated a fully developed objective with no complicating variables, the more willing he became to participate. As a result,  distilling the first production run to a single configuration that matched the sample TBR we had on hand was mandatory.

 

3 - nope, each 5th/6th gen header will be exactly the same. Detailed specs are listed in the original post.

 

 

Thanks for the reply/info!  Will PM you over at VFRW...

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Duc2V4 and I are looking for a set of used 6th gen performance slip-on midpipe/mufflers to purchase, borrow, or have donated for use dyno test/tuning the prototype new VFR800 performance header. Our test 6th gen has gutted OEM mid pipe/mufflers, and those won't flow enough exhaust gas to take best advantage of the new header.

A cosmetically damaged 6th gen slip-on would be great if fully functional. Any brand or model that is open flowing is fine; Two Brother Racing, Delkevic, Micron, Leo Vince, Akrapovic, Scorpion, Staintune, etc

We would prefer to accept a generous donation or loan and will pick up in southern California or pay for shipping [pay shipping both ways if the slipon is a loan], but we are willing to purchase.

WE ARE NOT PICKY. Thanks for considering this.

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Probably worth noting that the donated/loaned slip on will not be usable after being loaned, unless it is then used in conjunction with one of these headers or a custom gasket is made to fit the newly expanded end. On the up side, a good way to ensure good fit is having the fabricator fit them personally. lol 

 

I have a set of Remus carbon pipes hanging on the wall in my shop. I'm thinking about it, but, I couldn't really be any further away. I'm also unsure if I want the 5/6 gen configuration or the 8th, as I haven't sorted my cooling system plan 100% yet. 

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Thanks for considering it Seb. I'll PM you in case it works out to purchase your Remus mufflers or use them for testing and fit a new set of headers to them for your 6th gen. Here's a thought - Wade suggested that one way to properly match the large outlet of the new performance header would be for him to fabricate midpipes.

 

Remus sounds great in two ways [1] just the sound of the VFR V4 running through them [2] as an outlet for our test 6th gen's burned gases.

 

I hope you noticed that we corrected our grave error of leaving you off our initial 'grateful thanks' list...you're first on the list now!

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Like (many) others, I'm pretty happy to see something like this looking like eventuating. It's taken a long time to be potentially this close (not for lack of effort on behalf of a number of people!)

 

While I've put my hand up as interested in the headers themselves, "if" there is a full system eventually available with Carbon slip-on, I'd almost certainly be interested in the whole thing. (Will need to get a handle on shipping to Oz, though).

 

Given that the $AUD is falling against the $USD, I'd also be very keen to pay for the header/system in $USD if at all possible. (I guess the question there revolves around methods of payment available).

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Hi EX-XX  - sorry to hear about the $AUD tipping downward. I'll PM you and let's set something up to preserve your valuation.

 

HighSideNZ informed that NZ Post has a 'drop point' [for lack of a better term] in Portland Oregon USA, where private US shippers can have parcels sent. Then the NZ Post relays the packages through customs and on to New Zealand at reasonable cost. Perhaps there is a similar Australian service available for us small independent shippers and receivers?

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2 hours ago, sfdownhill said:

Hi EX-XX  - sorry to hear about the $AUD tipping downward. I'll PM you and let's set something up to preserve your valuation.

 

HighSideNZ informed that NZ Post has a 'drop point' [for lack of a better term] in Portland Oregon USA, where private US shippers can have parcels sent. Then the NZ Post relays the packages through customs and on to New Zealand at reasonable cost. Perhaps there is a similar Australian service available for us small independent shippers and receivers?

Aus Post refers to a service called "ShopMate" for this purpose. I haven't used it, as I'd either have the person ship it direct, or use another service (Shipito etc.) for the purpose.

 

Have any of the other Oz members used ShopMate for US-based purchases...?

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32 minutes ago, EX-XX said:

Aus Post refers to a service called "ShopMate" for this purpose. I haven't used it, as I'd either have the person ship it direct, or use another service (Shipito etc.) for the purpose.

 

Have any of the other Oz members used ShopMate for US-based purchases...?

I haven't used it but I just read thru it and we would need the boxed dimensions and weight for shipping rate. From what I also understand is that if a single item is valued at over a AU$1000 additional import duties apply, so at our current exchange rate maybe we could separate into 2 parcels. 10% Gst is also applicable ontop of purchase 

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EX-XX and boOZZIE, the dimensions of the shipping package for one set of headers will be 95cm x 60cm  x 45cm [or slightly less] and will weigh 7kg [or slightly less]. 7kg includes 1kg of protective packing material and the box.

 

Thanks for being willing to check out shipping to Australia!

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1 hour ago, sfdownhill said:

EX-XX and boOZZIE, the dimensions of the shipping package for one set of headers will be 95cm x 60cm  x 45cm [or slightly less] and will weigh 7kg [or slightly less]. 7kg includes 1kg of protective packing material and the box.

 

Thanks for being willing to check out shipping to Australia!

I punched those dimensions into the Auspost shipping calculator and they are to big. Will not ship. So not sure, ill call them and see if they can do something else or point me in another direction.

Just to be clear

95cm is the length

60cm is the. ...?

45cm is the. ...?

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Call it 95cm length, 60cm width, and 45cm depth.

 

If that's still too large, try 95cm length, 45cm width, and 40cm depth.

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