squirrelman Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 at 34K your steering head bearings may need attention, cleaning and regreasing or replacement. Wheel bearings too need checking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacob1996 Posted March 10, 2018 Author Share Posted March 10, 2018 52 minutes ago, squirrelman said: at 34K your steering head bearings may need attention, cleaning and regreasing or replacement. Wheel bearings too need checking. Ill look at them to see how they look if they look shot i will definitely need to replace them if not ill just regrease them and see how they do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Captain 80s Posted March 10, 2018 Member Contributer Share Posted March 10, 2018 Isn't that wheel worth twice what he paid for the whole bike? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacob1996 Posted March 10, 2018 Author Share Posted March 10, 2018 36 minutes ago, Captain 80s said: Isn't that wheel worth twice what he paid for the whole bike? What vfr is that wheel off of since i didnt even know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrelman Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 STOCK WHEEL 5-spoke your 8-spoke wheel was fitted on some gen3 models originally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer JZH Posted March 10, 2018 Member Contributer Share Posted March 10, 2018 Five spokes, surely! The 8-spoke wheel came on the '90-'93 model I'm not sure I would want to tape up a tank unless there was absolutely no possibility of moisture. The tape does keep anyone from looking inside... Ciao, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacob1996 Posted March 10, 2018 Author Share Posted March 10, 2018 2 hours ago, JZH said: Five spokes, surely! The 8-spoke wheel came on the '90-'93 model I'm not sure I would want to tape up a tank unless there was absolutely no possibility of moisture. The tape does keep anyone from looking inside... Ciao, I'm taking the tape off now so I can install the gas cap since where I had it there was chance of water moisture getting inside of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer MaxSwell Posted March 10, 2018 Member Contributer Share Posted March 10, 2018 19 hours ago, jacob1996 said: Ill look at them to see how they look if they look shot i will definitely need to replace them if not ill just regrease them and see how they do Having owned five fifth gens since 2006, on everyone I've replaced the steering head bearings with All Balls tapered roller bearings on the original advice of my Honda dealer's mechanic. The first bike was at about 75,000 miles when I began experiencing front end vibrations. At first he noticed my front tire was cupped. A new tire did not fix it. So he tested thusly: The simple test of the oem ball bearings is to get the front end in the air and slowly rotate the bars from lock-to-lock. If you can feel a detent in the center the bearing are burnt toast. On a 2000 it happened by 28,000 mi. I bought that machine with about 25,000 miles on it so I do not know how it happened so soon on this particular example. Other wise, good for you in your efforts. Personally, carbs have always scared me. Lawn mowers, chain saws, other's boad motors. All bad carb experiances. So I'm impressed with your persistance. Good luck and good riding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrelman Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 14 minutes ago, MaxSwell said: ...... on everyone I've replaced the steering head bearings with All Balls tapered roller bearings on the original advice of my Honda dealer's mechanic. Cheap Chinese garbage i wouldn't use, bad steel, poor quality control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer MaxSwell Posted March 10, 2018 Member Contributer Share Posted March 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, squirrelman said: Cheap Chinese garbage i wouldn't use, bad steel, poor quality control. Really?! I had no idea. I've yet to have any of the tapered bearing fail. They were the mechanic's suggestion. So from now on I'll merely recommend quality tapered rolling bearings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrelman Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 8 minutes ago, MaxSwell said: Really?! I had no idea. I've yet to have any of the tapered bearing fail. They were the mechanic's suggestion. So from now on I'll merely recommend quality tapered rolling bearings. It's the classic trade-off: you pay half as much for Chinese bearings but need to replace them twice as often. Quality bearings come from USA, Germany, Japan, Sweden ONLY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer JZH Posted March 11, 2018 Member Contributer Share Posted March 11, 2018 All Balls doesn't necessarily use crap bearings, but they do seem to be off-brands and often Chinese. With the traditional US/European/Japanese bearing brands you know what you're getting. People recommend All Balls mainly because they're well-known and easy to get. But if you learn a bit about standard automotive bearings, you can see that it is not necessary to have a third party like All Balls figure out which standard bearings and seals you need and put them into a pretty package for you! Ciao, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIMLARCH Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 18 hours ago, MaxSwell said: Having owned five fifth gens since 2006, on everyone I've replaced the steering head bearings with All Balls tapered roller bearings on the original advice of my Honda dealer's mechanic. The first bike was at about 75,000 miles when I began experiencing front end vibrations. At first he noticed my front tire was cupped. A new tire did not fix it. So he tested thusly: The simple test of the oem ball bearings is to get the front end in the air and slowly rotate the bars from lock-to-lock. If you can feel a detent in the center the bearing are burnt toast. On a 2000 it happened by 28,000 mi. I bought that machine with about 25,000 miles on it so I do not know how it happened so soon on this particular example. Other wise, good for you in your efforts. Personally, carbs have always scared me. Lawn mowers, chain saws, other's boad motors. All bad carb experiances. So I'm impressed with your persistance. Good luck and good riding. Your method for testing the detent on steering head bearings is one I used when I heard a loud cracking noise from my front end on braking hard. There was an obvious notch in the centre position. With 40k on the bike I examined the steering head bearings when removing my forks for an oil change. Looked like original bearings with a little grungy grease on them. Didn't have time to replace the bearings so I lubed them. Once put back together the detent was gone and they perform as they should. Intend to put stiffer fork springs for my weight this year and will replace the steering head bearings at that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacob1996 Posted March 11, 2018 Author Share Posted March 11, 2018 so I have another question, I looked up the size of my handlebars to buy a new set and it said 43mm, so I bought 43mm handlebars but come to find out there not the right size so do any of you know what the correct size handlebars I need so I can send these ones back and get my 30 bucks back lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Captain 80s Posted March 11, 2018 Member Contributer Share Posted March 11, 2018 41mm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrelman Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 On 3/10/2018 at 4:58 PM, MaxSwell said: Really?! I had no idea. I've yet to have any of the tapered bearing fail. They were the mechanic's suggestion. So from now on I'll merely recommend quality tapered rolling bearings. OK, just don't use Allballs for wheel bearings ! spend the $$ on OEM quality. the mechanic was somewhat fullashit. why recommend any non-stock, lower-quality replacements ? just saving money isn't worth it. a better shop would have offered to order OEM parts for your repair. what grease on the bearings ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrelman Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 17 hours ago, JZH said: All Balls doesn't necessarily use crap bearings, but they do seem to be off-brands and often Chinese. With the traditional US/European/Japanese bearing brands you know what you're getting. People recommend All Balls mainly because they're well-known and easy to get. But if you learn a bit about standard automotive bearings, you can see that it is not necessary to have a third party like All Balls figure out which standard bearings and seals you need and put them into a pretty package for you! Hear, hear, matey ! No, i won't say all non-OEM parts are not as good; but, with no testing we know of, why assume any extra risk of failure in manufacture or materials defects ? I won't use Chinese parts on anything i ride, including an old winter-ridden '86 Yamaha. Just based upon what i've observed and experienced, comprende ? Now, about my wheel spoke miscount... my bike was sitting in a workshop over 10 miles distant, and i hadn't visited it in months due to winter weather. Appreciate your correction as i do hate inaccuracy--almost like a lie-- in myself, although i sometimes tolerate it in others. Wasn't it the eminent Dr. Johnson, i believe, who quipped in a 1770 dinner at the Black Swan with great men men of that age that " An inaccuracy is as good as a lie, Sir, eh, Dr. Boswell ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacob1996 Posted March 12, 2018 Author Share Posted March 12, 2018 4 hours ago, Captain 80s said: 41mm thanks man I appreciate it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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