Member Contributer RobF Posted August 15, 2016 Member Contributer Share Posted August 15, 2016 On 8/14/2016 at 6:47 AM, Dutchy said: Trip over, broken wrist.... No! What a bummer ending to a great adventure (with great photos). ATGATT! I'm glad you are (mostly) okay and hope the insurance stuff sorts out reasonably well for you. On 8/14/2016 at 8:43 AM, Dutchy said: The driver phoned me to apologise. That is a classy move that people mostly don't do here in the states where everyone's desperate fear of losing the lawsuit lottery has chased some forms of basic decency to the brink of extinction. 16 hours ago, Dutchy said: I fear pics of redslut will earn me a ban on vfrd since no crash pictutes are allowed here.. Wait... does VFRD have such a policy? I had no idea. I'm sure I remember seeing member accident photos previously, such as: http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/index.php?/topic/82390-wrecked http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/index.php?/topic/82820-bit-by-the-dragon In any case, best wishes to you for a speedy recovery. And thank you for the great photo-journalism -- bummer ending and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Dutchy Posted August 16, 2016 Author Member Contributer Share Posted August 16, 2016 Well, the crux is a "Sir Terry" (not to be confused with a Prince Albert by the way) Frame broke off completely (both left and right) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Duc2V4 Posted August 16, 2016 Member Contributer Share Posted August 16, 2016 Ouch! That's gonna leave a mark. So glad you came out in much better shape Dutchy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeper Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 You are a very lucky man Leon! It appears that RedSlut sacrificed herself for you. RIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer RobF Posted August 16, 2016 Member Contributer Share Posted August 16, 2016 Okay, Dutchy, you've already acclimated us to bad news, so let's just skip ahead to the end and be done with it: What happened to the three bottles of whisky you had in the top case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Dutchy Posted August 16, 2016 Author Member Contributer Share Posted August 16, 2016 A few more pics as the driver picked me up in the town where the hospital is located (80km away) to the smaller town where we need to report in under 2 hours. I came from here (from where the truck is) (Redslut robble swiped aside....) They came from here, turning left, not having spotted me. I hit the rear axle of the car, myself falling forward to the door (see the dent) I am very happy, not to mention lucky that redslut didnot hit the passenger door. For their 3 small kids were sitting there.. He had to bend the fender make the car mobile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer arrow Posted August 16, 2016 Member Contributer Share Posted August 16, 2016 So sorry to hear about this and it was going so well :-(. I'm so glad to see that you're OK though, get well soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspanglish Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Just read this thread. Was enjoying it immensely (not as much as you), until now (not as much as you either). Bummer, major bummer. Yet as always your resilience and "sunny side up" attitude shine through. Glad to see you're OK, nothing that won't heal. Next time you want to cut a motorcycle trip short and return via airplane because you miss wifey don't resort to such drastic tactics and cough up the money!!Job? Open a sauna with a window in the red light district in Amsterdam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEBSPEED Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Best of luck in getting her(or at least the parts you really care about) back home with you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Polarbear Posted August 16, 2016 Member Contributer Share Posted August 16, 2016 Sorry about Redslut. But Cougar will be ready at home waiting for you when you are all healed up. Yes, what happened to the whiskey? Good luck with the insurance company and such. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Dutchy Posted August 16, 2016 Author Member Contributer Share Posted August 16, 2016 Well, I left the clutchcover and 8 spoker on the bike as the salvage company owner started to talk rubbish... So I left town after sorting out the police business (no problem, the made a clear report and I have a copy. The translator was great too) and initiating claim procedures. Am now at the airport hotel for a 07:35am flight home. Life's a journey, not a destination. -Aerosmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Skids Posted August 16, 2016 Member Contributer Share Posted August 16, 2016 Any plans to buy her back from the insurance company and salvage what you can? It's what I did with my 5th Gen, though she wasn't as badly damaged as Redslut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Dutchy Posted August 16, 2016 Author Member Contributer Share Posted August 16, 2016 The Laphroiag quarter cask Hakushu distillers choice and Highland Park 18yr Are all ok!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Mohawk Posted August 16, 2016 Member Contributer Share Posted August 16, 2016 Hey Dutchy, So the car driver was coming in the opposite direct to you & turned across your path, is that correct ? Which would explain how you ended up hitting the right rear quarter of the car. Can I ask do/were you riding with headlights on ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Skids Posted August 16, 2016 Member Contributer Share Posted August 16, 2016 Just now, Dutchy said: The Laphroiag quarter cask Hakushu distillers choice and Highland Park 18yr Are all ok!!!!! Result! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Polarbear Posted August 16, 2016 Member Contributer Share Posted August 16, 2016 1 minute ago, Dutchy said: The Laphroiag quarter cask Hakushu distillers choice and Highland Park 18yr Are all ok!!!!! sounds to me like you still are ahead... Safe journey home Leon. C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Dutchy Posted August 16, 2016 Author Member Contributer Share Posted August 16, 2016 I wearing my dayglo orange helmet, dayglo yellow raonsuit (it had dried up) Double headlights and LED dlrl's.... He simply did not look or was distracted Exerpt (names removed) from official police investigation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keny Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Sure was easy to see you in the mirrors even in bright daylight! And even the RC24:s when moving my head slightly sideways :) the distraction, phone, kids, radio? Only driver knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Dutchy Posted August 16, 2016 Author Member Contributer Share Posted August 16, 2016 Airport hotel Gin Tonic Smoked pork Life ain't a bad place to be :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Polarbear Posted August 16, 2016 Member Contributer Share Posted August 16, 2016 1 hour ago, keny said: Sure was easy to see you in the mirrors even in bright daylight! And even the RC24:s when moving my head slightly sideways :) the distraction, phone, kids, radio? Only driver knows. Sometimes, when you are not looking for something (expecting), you cannot see it. C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer digitallyhip Posted August 16, 2016 Member Contributer Share Posted August 16, 2016 Leon: I am really sorry that this happened to you and your fine bike. All the usual platitudes, of course. But I have a better explanation for the cause of the accident! Clearly the driver forgot to: Pass the Dutchy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer RobF Posted August 16, 2016 Member Contributer Share Posted August 16, 2016 23 minutes ago, Polarbear said: Someties, when you are not looking for something (expecting), you cannot see it. Exactly this. I haven't looked at motorcycle accident statistics recently, but my recollection is that most accidents are single-vehicle events -- usually a failure to successfully negotiate a turn due to: road hazards, excessive speed, insufficient rider competency, or possibly some level of intoxication. Next in frequency are the two vehicle accidents, and of those the overwhelming majority are of the left-turn/failure-to-yield variety exactly like this one. If, as a motorcyclist, you are going to be in an accident through no fault of your own, this type of accident is the most probable scenario. Almost without exception, the non-yielding driver will state that they simply "never saw" the motorcycle. This dynamic is so consistent through time that Cogswell and Skids were posting variations of this cliche to newrider's "Riding Quotes" thread almost concurrently with Dutchy's initial accident report: http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/index.php?/topic/84263-riding-quotes/&page=2#comment-1044746 Obviously I have no idea what actually happened in Dutchy's case specifically, but in general my personal theory regarding this class of sensory failure is that the driver's eyes "see" the motorcycle, but his mind doesn't. That is, he points his eyes in the correct direction (upstream traffic), and the light emanating from the motorcycle successfully passes through his pupils and strikes his retinas, but his mind doesn't push the information into his awareness. Why? Because the mind is an imperfect pattern-matching organ that is scanning for "traffic" in a way that is implemented as scanning for "car-like shapes of a certain size and speed" and things that don't fit the "car-like shapes of a certain size and speed" pattern are sometimes completely filtered from awareness -- especially so for a low-intensity, habit-based reflex that is given a brief second of attention before a driver executes (what he anticipates to be) a routine turn just like the thousands that preceded it. There is a famous video that powerfully illustrates this type of selective attention failure: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGQmdoK_ZfY ...that I won't describe further in case you wish to (possibly) experience it first hand. Can you successfully count the number of passes? I have been in group demonstrations where the attention failures are profound and mind-blowing. Anyway, if you buy this analysis, then the best practices are probably to have good headlights and road-contrasty gear (both of which Dutchy had), plus ride like you are invisible, plus hope for decent luck -- because even the most cautious and prepared rider can't push his risk down to zero. Of course we all know this. I think a shared respect for the genuine risks of the sport is a part of what binds us as a community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helweg Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Good to hear you're on your way out of Lithuania and going home ( with a small collection of whiskey ) even it was the worst ending of the tour, I still hope you think it was worth it I enjoyed your company on the first part that was fun thanks for sharing ! how about that wrist how long to get bandage off ? have a safe flight home tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspanglish Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Airport hotel Gin Tonic Smoked pork Life ain't a bad place to be :-) Good to see you're in good spirits and the good spirits are in you!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Mohawk Posted August 17, 2016 Member Contributer Share Posted August 17, 2016 RobF, that second paragraph about brain verses eye perception corrolates nicely with my own knowledge of accidents. I have sworn that if it ever hapens again & I'm fit & able when the driver says "sorry mate I didn't see you" or SMIDSY in the UK then I'm going to beat them to death !!!!!! Sometimes I ask people when talking about driving/riding & accidents or near misses, "what do you look for" & almost always regardless of car or bike driver, they say CARS ! sometimes they say other road users. But I try to get them to think or look for MOVEMENT. Stationary objects DON'T cause crashes & yes a stationary vehicle of person may move & cause an accident, but then they are moving ! Staionary things are potential hazards, but moving things have kinetic energy & can hurt you ! if you attune your sences to look for movement, then you WILL see pedestrians, cyclists & all other road users very easily. Works for me, unfortunately does not help when you have right of way & the other person, like in Dutchy's case does NOT see you :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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