Member Contributer gig Posted March 9, 2015 Member Contributer Share Posted March 9, 2015 The motul is available for $16.00 - $20.00 +1, 5w30 mobil syn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baileyrock Posted March 10, 2015 Author Share Posted March 10, 2015 OK we know what's the best oil to run in our VFR's, now whats the best oil to run in my two Mercedes Diesels????? Does it have to be diesel specific ??? BR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Rush2112 Posted March 10, 2015 Member Contributer Share Posted March 10, 2015 OK we know what's the best oil to run in our VFR's, now whats the best oil to run in my two Mercedes Diesels????? Does it have to be diesel specific ??? BR Try this... I'm sure it ain't cheap though... 17. 5W30 Amsoil Series 3000 Heavy Duty Diesel Oil synthetic, API CI-4 PLUS, CF, SL, ACEA A3/B3, E2, E3, E5, E7 = 102,642 psi This is BY FAR, the highest ranked Diesel oil I have ever tested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Switchblade Posted March 10, 2015 Member Contributer Share Posted March 10, 2015 Series 3000 SAE 5W-30 Synthetic Heavy Duty Diesel Oil Home Shop by Product Motor Oil Gasoline Diesel European Racing Motorcycle 2-Stroke 4-Stroke Car or Truck Motorcycle ATV UTV Snowmobile Marine Outboard Engine Personal Watercraft Small Engine Series 3000 SAE 5W-30 Synthetic Heavy Duty Diesel Oil Maximum Fuel Economy and Excellent Anti-Wear Protection Engineered for pre-2007 diesel engines in on-road applications as well as all model year diesel engines in off-road applications. Also engineered for all gasoline engines recommending API SL specifications including turbo-charged vehicles. Provides superior wear protection and fuel efficiency. A little high .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer YoshiHNS Posted March 11, 2015 Member Contributer Share Posted March 11, 2015 Mercedes owners can't be bothered with worrying about silly things like oil and vehicle maintenance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNRabbit Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Amsoil has a 0W-40 motorcycle-specific oil that is the cat's ass~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baileyrock Posted March 11, 2015 Author Share Posted March 11, 2015 OK we know what's the best oil to run in our VFR's, now whats the best oil to run in my two Mercedes Diesels????? Does it have to be diesel specific ??? BR Try this... I'm sure it ain't cheap though... 17. 5W30 Amsoil Series 3000 Heavy Duty Diesel Oil synthetic, API CI-4 PLUS, CF, SL, ACEA A3/B3, E2, E3, E5, E7 = 102,642 psi This is BY FAR, the highest ranked Diesel oil I have ever tested. Yeah that item is great, but do I Need a diesel specific oil in them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer BusyLittleShop Posted March 11, 2015 Member Contributer Share Posted March 11, 2015 Yeah that item is great, but do I Need a diesel specific oil in them? No... The American Petroleum Institute (API) sets minimum for performance standards for lubricants... it is split (for passenger cars) into two categories. S = Petrol and C = Diesel, most oils carry both petrol (S) and diesel C In that Amsoil video the guy states that Mobil 1 5w30 is the base oil to all their Diesel synthetics so in their view it exceeds the minimum standards for your Mercedes... its up to you whether you want to spend $12.95 qt for Amsoil or $5.40 qt Mobil 1... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer gig Posted March 11, 2015 Member Contributer Share Posted March 11, 2015 http://www.motoparthub.com/104108_Motul_300v_Synthetic_Motor_Oil_Oil_300v_5w30_Synester_1l Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer BusyLittleShop Posted March 11, 2015 Member Contributer Share Posted March 11, 2015 Amsoil has a 0W-40 motorcycle-specific oil that is the cat's ass~ Referring back to that Amsoil video the guy states that Mobil 1 0w30 is the base oil to all their auto synthetics and Mobil 1 5w30 is the base to all their diesel synthetics... in their view M1 is the premium POA... The motorcycle specific oil is either one or the other or a combination... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spud786 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Amsoil has a 0W-40 motorcycle-specific oil that is the cat's ass~ Referring back to that Amsoil video the guy states that Mobil 1 0w30 is the base oil to all their auto synthetics and Mobil 1 5w30 is the base to all their diesel synthetics... in their view M1 is the premium POA... The motorcycle specific oil is either one or the other or a combination... There only a few places to get pao, that has nothing to do with the final product, and to even insuate they are the same is totally incorrect. Anyone with a nose should be able to tell they aren't the same oils. the question should be how much pao is in Mobil1, in comparision. The way the flash point have dropped on many Mobil1 products, such as the VTWIN, id say not much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer BusyLittleShop Posted March 11, 2015 Member Contributer Share Posted March 11, 2015 the question should be how much pao is in Mobil1, in comparision. The way the flash point have dropped on many Mobil1 products, such as the VTWIN, id say not much. Quote Mobil "Mobil 1 uses high-performance fluids, including polyalphaolefins (PAOs)" but no knows the exact % of PAO in Mobil1... PAO (polyalphaolefin) are base fluids that are synthesized from ethylene. Commonly referred to as synthetic hydrocarbons, have many favorable properties which contribute to their rapidly growing use for a variety of industrial applications . They have low pour points, low volatility, good compatibility, thermal stability, hydrological stability, chemical inertness and good natural lubricity. FLASH POINT You'll see motor oil flash point range from 380 to 485... Technically speaking an oils flash point is the lowest temperature at which it will generate sufficient vapor to flash or ignite when exposed to a source of ignition, or fire. In other words, at what temperature do the smoldering vapors catch fire? For most gasoline oil samples, it's around 380F. For most diesel samples, it's around 410F. When the flash point reads lower than expected, it may indicate fuel contamination or solvents or even water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spud786 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Vtwin used to be around 518 degree flash, now its down around 440 degree like their car oils, vtwin used to be the real stuff, the base oil has cheapen. 10w40 used to be at 487 degree, mobil has made changes to its expensive oils while maintaining price, consumer none the wiser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer BusyLittleShop Posted March 11, 2015 Member Contributer Share Posted March 11, 2015 Mobil maintains price of their expensive oils from the shear volume of sales... Oil Market shareMobil 1 58%Amsoil 4%Quaker State 4%Castrol 7%Pennzoil 9%Valvoline 10%Havoline 2%Others 6% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baileyrock Posted March 12, 2015 Author Share Posted March 12, 2015 So M1 5w30 is sweet Diesel as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Rush2112 Posted March 12, 2015 Member Contributer Share Posted March 12, 2015 So M1 5w30 is sweet Diesel as well? Just pulled a quart out of the case in my garage and there is no API "C" rating for diesel and it specifically stated "For Gasoline Engines" on the front label... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baileyrock Posted March 12, 2015 Author Share Posted March 12, 2015 So M1 5w30 is sweet Diesel as well? Just pulled a quart out of the case in my garage and there is no API "C" rating for diesel and it specifically stated "For Gasoline Engines" on the front label... I knew Larry was full of it!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer BusyLittleShop Posted March 12, 2015 Member Contributer Share Posted March 12, 2015 I knew Larry was full of it!!!! I do and I do for you kids and this is the thanks I get... ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baileyrock Posted March 12, 2015 Author Share Posted March 12, 2015 I trash freely! Keep it coming Larry, so do I buy M1 5w30 and add my own diesel pkg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer BusyLittleShop Posted March 13, 2015 Member Contributer Share Posted March 13, 2015 I trash freely! Keep it coming Larry, so do I buy M1 5w30 and add my own diesel pkg? I don't C how you could go wrong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baileyrock Posted March 15, 2015 Author Share Posted March 15, 2015 These are the three Mobil 1 products I currently use. The European Car Formula 0w40 meets my 05 CDI Benz MB 229.5 requirements. This one ESP Formula 5w30 is the only one that meets my 2010 TDI's VW 507.00 requirements with particulate filter. This EP 5w30 is what on use on everything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Rush2112 Posted March 15, 2015 Member Contributer Share Posted March 15, 2015 Where did you pick-up the 5w30 EP formula? I've been looking for that one and none of my local stores have it... Autozone, O'Reillys, WalMart, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer BusyLittleShop Posted March 15, 2015 Member Contributer Share Posted March 15, 2015 Take away the oil can marketing and facts are less confusing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baileyrock Posted March 16, 2015 Author Share Posted March 16, 2015 So what does that mean Larry? Where did you pick-up the 5w30 EP formula? I've been looking for that one and none of my local stores have it... Autozone, O'Reillys, WalMart, etc. I found a great deal on a case off eBay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Rush2112 Posted March 16, 2015 Member Contributer Share Posted March 16, 2015 I had read that the M1 Extended Performance was still using all PAO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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