JimGregory Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 on a 98 what type of gains can be expected with a slip on system. My bike came with a generic oval CF pipe. It's straight through with some packing. Not real loud. But it seems to loft the wheel easier then with the stock system. What kind of real world gains do you actually get? I realize all pipes are not equal. And I may not keep it on as I vastly prefer stealth over a few HP. But I will say it's nice to know what the engine is doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bayarearider Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 3 HP if you Tuck... but it sounds like 15! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Dutchy Posted July 18, 2014 Member Contributer Share Posted July 18, 2014 You already have the color that adds 4hp, so no more gains for you.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNRabbit Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 I had my 5th gen on a dyno last month; with a D & D slip on it hit 106 hp at the wheel. If I'm not mistaken, stock at the crank was supposed to be 112 hp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer MadScientist Posted July 18, 2014 Member Contributer Share Posted July 18, 2014 Yeah, but you can't make that comparison. You'd need a before/after on the same dyno to determine if any gains were actually made. there are too many variables otherwise. As most others said, expect 0-3 hp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer FJ12Ryder Posted July 18, 2014 Member Contributer Share Posted July 18, 2014 Yeah, what Dutchy said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 If anything, you most likely lost some torque having a more straight through pipe on the bike than stock as you usally need some back pressure for good torque values........ HP gain is I suspect one or a couple HP at top end at most (but some badly designed pipes had actually been known to take a little bit of HP from the bike), but with the smaller torque numbers, it all just evens out to what you had stock, performance-wise on the road. In short, without internal engine modifications, expecting more HP/torque from most slip-ons is a dream..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baileyrock Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 If anything, you most likely lost some torque having a more straight through pipe on the bike than stock as you usally need some back pressure for good torque values........ HP gain is I suspect one or a couple HP at top end at most (but some badly designed pipes had actually been known to take a little bit of HP from the bike), but with the smaller torque numbers, it all just evens out to what you had stock, performance-wise on the road. In short, without internal engine modifications, expecting more HP/torque from most slip-ons is a dream..... Completely agree here, I would expect anywhere from +/- 0-2 hp especially w/o a map tuned for the mod.BR But it sounds nice! BTW pretty sure you could get someone to trade you straight across for a cherry stock muffler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcrwt644 Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 I use to see about 3-4hp on average a number of years ago with no FI or carb work. They make nice noise. Remember, one of the easiest ways to get hp, is to lose weight on the rider. 7lbs=1hp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raoufhakam Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Depends mainly on the color of your bike, like "Dutchy" said, you already have the fastest color (Red) so there's not much left to be gained already. As opposed to slower VFR colors like green oe gray, these could possibly gain some 3hp or so with a slip-on which barely makes it nearly as fast as red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimGregory Posted July 19, 2014 Author Share Posted July 19, 2014 Well the pro's are the carbon can is weightless. And it sounds like a 427 winding up but not so loud. It really does sound cool. Con's are it's too loud. Stealth mode is lost. I don't like frightening old ladies when I pass them. I have a cherry stock can.(bike came to me with both) Stock can goes back on. I have a carbon can in southern CT if someone needs one. Come and get it. I also have a fully modded airbox lid. Come and get it. Payin it forward if anyone wants it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer vfr350 Posted July 19, 2014 Member Contributer Share Posted July 19, 2014 Back when i bought new dealer quoted the Yoshi being 5-8 hp, course they didnt state where. I can say w only the slipon +5k midrange was improved, i have no dyno to back but the front end got light more often. Adding a pc could only help some after. I would have to say most designs w/o some cheezy removable baffle be real similar. Edit, the more i thought about it the dealer had 2 options, the +5hp Yoshi slip for just over $400 or the +8hp 2bros system for over $1200. Even if i had more money back then i`d still have no regrets in my descision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimGregory Posted July 19, 2014 Author Share Posted July 19, 2014 Pipe and lid going to Chuck in Mystic. Maybe Chuck will do something for someone else. Or already has. MaxSwell You started this! Thanks for the paint! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer The mailman Posted July 19, 2014 Member Contributer Share Posted July 19, 2014 On my 4th gen as well as my 6th gen, I would suspect the most obvious gain is the loss of weight. Both stock pipes felt like boat anchors compared to my after market options. I'm not sure about hp gain on either but it takes a lot of power to push another 10 pounds of steel down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Dutchy Posted July 19, 2014 Member Contributer Share Posted July 19, 2014 the oem muffler on a 4th gen is 6 kilo Akrapovic hexagonal 1.6 kilo.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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