Guest Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 If it's not coming to the US, does it even really count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Switchblade Posted November 12, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted November 12, 2013 If we build it they will come ...... I hope anyway .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AB-Oz Posted November 12, 2013 Author Share Posted November 12, 2013 If it's not coming to the US, does it even really count? Of course it doesn't count, the US is the only important place in the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Switchblade Posted November 12, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted November 12, 2013 You know what's even more humiliating Honda will cut the price on the 7th gens and the 8th gens will be priced higher and sale more units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Dutchy Posted November 12, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted November 12, 2013 Switch, are you saying the the most popular religion in (y)our neck of the woods (capitalism) is humiliating????? ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VICARA Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 I hope that when it comes to the US i'll be upgraded to a 1200. I personally don't care for anything less than a liter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headhunter Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Love my 1200. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannytb Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 I'm probably going to stir up a hornet's nest with this remark, but... The VFR1200 is more akin with the ST1300, so it should be stripped of the "7th gen" title, and it should be given to the new VFR800! (Activating flame suit) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 I'm probably going to stir up a hornet's nest with this remark, but... The VFR1200 is more akin with the ST1300, so it should be stripped of the "7th gen" title, and it should be given to the new VFR800! (Activating flame suit) You know what's even more humiliating Honda will cut the price on the 7th gens and the 8th gens will be priced higher and sale more units. I'd be interested in seeing what they might drop the prices down to on the 7th gens. I will agree with DannyTB, though, about the 1200 having more in common with the ST1300. I never really considered the 1200 a true sucessor to the 6th gen. It's an all together different beast. It would be like saying if Yamaha had killed the R6, that the R1 was the next generation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AB-Oz Posted November 13, 2013 Author Share Posted November 13, 2013 LOL, the 1200 is called a VFR by Honda, guess what, that makes it a VFR not an ST, and its the 7th Gen. The 2014 is the 8th Gen, democratically endorsed, end of story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer mello dude Posted November 13, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted November 13, 2013 ^^^ So.... what is its RC designation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer CornerCarver Posted November 13, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted November 13, 2013 ^^^ So.... what is its RC designation? Probably same as the 5G...RC46 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannytb Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 LOL, the 1200 is called a VFR by Honda, guess what, that makes it a VFR not an ST, and its the 7th Gen. The 2014 is the 8th Gen, democratically endorsed, end of story What would Honda know about VFR's? Don't they know that we want them to release a VFR800 with USD forks so we'll all have a new bolt-in upgrade for our 5/6 gens? LOL ^^^ So.... what is its RC designation? Probably same as the 5G...RC46 Isn't Mello asking about the VFR1200? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer CornerCarver Posted November 13, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted November 13, 2013 LOL, the 1200 is called a VFR by Honda, guess what, that makes it a VFR not an ST, and its the 7th Gen. The 2014 is the 8th Gen, democratically endorsed, end of story What would Honda know about VFR's? Don't they know that we want them to release a VFR800 with USD forks so we'll all have a new bolt-in upgrade for our 5/6 gens? LOL ^^^ So.... what is its RC designation?Probably same as the 5G...RC46 Isn't Mello asking about the VFR1200? hard to say since he doesn't reference a previous post, but since the 1200 is over a certain engine size (900cc IIRC or maybe 850?) it get's the SC chassis designation just as the "RC51" officially had...American Honda thought RC51 sounded like a better follow up to the RC45 so...the rest is history. What is the chassis designation for the VF1000R? I think it may be SC12 but I can't recall right now. Are you suggesting that Mello would only accept a VFR if the engine is small enough to have a chassis designation from Honda that is in the RC range? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer mello dude Posted November 14, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted November 14, 2013 LOL, the 1200 is called a VFR by Honda, guess what, that makes it a VFR not an ST, and its the 7th Gen. The 2014 is the 8th Gen, democratically endorsed, end of story What would Honda know about VFR's? Don't they know that we want them to release a VFR800 with USD forks so we'll all have a new bolt-in upgrade for our 5/6 gens? LOL ^^^ So.... what is its RC designation?Probably same as the 5G...RC46 Isn't Mello asking about the VFR1200? hard to say since he doesn't reference a previous post, but since the 1200 is over a certain engine size (900cc IIRC or maybe 850?) it get's the SC chassis designation just as the "RC51" officially had...American Honda thought RC51 sounded like a better follow up to the RC45 so...the rest is history. What is the chassis designation for the VF1000R? I think it may be SC12 but I can't recall right now. Are you suggesting that Mello would only accept a VFR if the engine is small enough to have a chassis designation from Honda that is in the RC range? Whoa, dunno whats going on but -- ok - refering to the new 800 -- why not RC47? So the 1200 is an SCxx designation? Waht would I accept? That's easy, any parts that wouid fit on my 5th gen.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannytb Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Waht would I accept? That's easy, any parts that wouid fit on my 5th gen.... Will the 1200's USD forks bolt onto an 800? If so, I might maybe possibly consider forgiving Honda for making such an obese "VFR" that sounds like a sewing machine, if I'm feeling really extremely generous... ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer CornerCarver Posted November 14, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted November 14, 2013 It is something else. Are all the VF bikes lumped in as 1st Gens? There are a lot of them! Yes all of the VF's are first gen bikes...it is open for debate regarding the 85-86 VF1000R as it had GDC engine but other than the stand alone RC30 and RC45 racing homologation models the lineage is pretty clear. Even the RC46 and RC51 share some engine architecture/similarities with the RC45... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer tbzep Posted November 14, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted November 14, 2013 why not RC47? That sounds like the racing version of the Douglas C-47 Skytrain (DC-3 civilian). It was the backbone of air transport during WWII. It might not be something they'd want to name it considering it was a huge factor in the outcome of the war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannytb Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 hard to say since he doesn't reference a previous post, but since the 1200 is over a certain engine size (900cc IIRC or maybe 850?) it get's the SC chassis designation just as the "RC51" officially had...American Honda thought RC51 sounded like a better follow up to the RC45 so...the rest is history. What of the RC213V, which is 1000cc? Not that we see any of them on the road, nor are they given the VFR name... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer dadofseven Posted November 14, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted November 14, 2013 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Daniel Paul Posted November 16, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted November 16, 2013 This poll is useless as it doesn't have the option for the correct generation... 7th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Dutchy Posted November 16, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted November 16, 2013 Elvis has left the building...... It is the 8th gen. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer vfrcapn Posted November 16, 2013 Member Contributer Share Posted November 16, 2013 What is the chassis designation for the VF1000R? I think it may be SC12 but I can't recall right now. VF1000R = SC16 Elvis has left the building...... It is the 8th gen. :-) Elvis is alive!! 7th gen!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannytb Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Even though I said I think the 1200 should be stripped of the 7th gen title, it would make everything very confusing. The new one could be called "6Bth gen"... :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marriedman Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 That would be 6th with a rear hub conversion it appears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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