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If it is based on the VFR1200, which is only logical, it will be too heavy compared to the GS1200 and Multistrada 1200 and even the Varadero itself, which is very heavy for a dual purpose-ish bike. I can't see what Honda is trying to achieve.

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I looked at the Varadero and its nice ( far from a dual purpose/adventure bike. ) and it will be interesting to see what the price on the crossover unit will be. Right now, some of the Honda dealers have the following prices for the Vararedo.

2008 - $10,598 ( sale priced )

2009 - $11,198 ( sale priced )

2010 - full retail $13,198.00

Wife says I can buy another bike, but, it has to be comfy for her as the passanger for any long road trips. no more VFR for her (in town rides only).

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Looks nice! And the idea of the DCT is just cool for hauling ass. But I just cant get over how fragile it all looks after riding around Africa with BMW's GS. I think I wouldn't even think of doing some of the stuff I've done with the GS with this bike.

Its potential remains to be seen, I guess!

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Looks nice! And the idea of the DCT is just cool for hauling ass. But I just cant get over how fragile it all looks after riding around Africa with BMW's GS. I think I wouldn't even think of doing some of the stuff I've done with the GS with this bike.

Its potential remains to be seen, I guess!

The clue is in the name really - it's a tourer, crossed with a soft-roader. So a tourer, then....

Just a different style than the traditional tourer like an ST or the VFR8

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I can't see what Honda is trying to achieve.

A two-wheeled SUV.

An SUV should be able to do some off-roading, what about this though? OK it looks nicer than the Crossrunner but I'm sure it will be less off-roadable than my 04 VTEC with all that weight and high saddle. Varadero was already too heavy especially compared to the GS and its sales suffered. I can't see this being an alternative to a GS and yet it tries to look like an adventure bike with wire wheels and 19 inch (if I'm not mistaken) front wheel. It's all looks and no go. Why not buy a VFR1200 and fit it with Heli-bars or something if the purpose is to make it more comfortable?

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Not sure about the 'heavy' comments - compared to the GS it would be in the same ball park.

Also, 'wire wheels', um - also GS. This looks like they are targeting a buyer that is a bit more than the VStrom but not quite a GS. Interesting…

Plus it would have a killer motor for off-road/dual-purpose.

I like the looks of the bike. I'll wait until I see it in person.

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Not sure about the 'heavy' comments - compared to the GS it would be in the same ball park.

Also, 'wire wheels', um - also GS. This looks like they are targeting a buyer that is a bit more than the VStrom but not quite a GS. Interesting…

Plus it would have a killer motor for off-road/dual-purpose.

I like the looks of the bike. I'll wait until I see it in person.

Well this is not going to be lighter than the VFR1200 it's based on. Same chassis, same shaft drive, same engine. The 1200 is heavier than the GS. The GS with a full tank is around 538 pounds, the VFR with the DCT is 613 pounds if I'm not mistaken.

I like the looks as well, but I think the V4 engine is a bit of an overkill for the dual purpose market. But then this is not a d-p bike but rather one that looks like a d-p.

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Updated information from Finland:

VFR800X Crossrunner price 15.998 € (Varadero XL1000 ABS 14.998€) and wet weight 240 kgs (Varadero 277 kgs)

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I think I'll wait till the thing actually comes out before saying how much it sucks. :). I just recently got a bking and I tell ya there ain't nothing like sitting up comfortably behind a real handlebar with a big motor thats full of stomp. Truth is I'd take the adventure tourer over the new vfr1200.

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At this point in time, having done research and seen in person the BMW R1200GS (but not ridden) and read plenty on the Yamaha XT1200 ST, I'd go with the Yamaha.

BMW has too many drive shaft issues which surprises me from a bike maker who is practically specialised in shaft drive mfr & tech.

Im itching to see the Yamaha in person...but it's delayed.

Im anxious to know how this bike will finally materialize.

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I think Honda is doing something like the truck manufacturers with offering 4x4 in every model they can. They are designing an "Adventure/Tour Motorcycle" so people can buy it, outfit it and feel like they are 'real adventurers' without actually going on any adventures. I see it as a marketing idea to sell cool looking bikes that won't every really be taken off-road/dirt road but will look the part.

I'm guessing we'll see lots of these bikes with hard cases, all kinds of farkles and such and NO off road mileage. Just like a long bed, crew cab, dually, 4x4, Dodge/Ford/Chevy that doesn't 4 wheel, tow a fifth wheel, or a bit boat and is used as a status symbol for driving to and from work.

Just my two cents from a rookie VFR rider but one who knows lots of this kind of crowd.

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I wonder if products like this would have been agreeable to Soichiro if he was alive. Not saying that it's neccessarily a bad bike, but it's just so different from what was coming upt of Honda till he died.

Similar thing seemed to have happened to Ferrari too after the "Il Commendatore" died......

Beck

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I will consider it as a tour bike. With the longer travel suspension it should handle rough pavement and maybe an occasional dirt road which would be an adventure for me on this bike. Honda must think that this will sell better than a ST version of the VFR.

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