Forum CEO HispanicSlammer Posted July 23, 2002 Forum CEO Share Posted July 23, 2002 Installing Sargent Quick Release Pins Standard Honda "FrankenBolts" Difficult to remove Sargent Quick Release Kit 2 QR pins rubber backed washers 2 clear plastic tubes (not visible) 2 zip ties (I did not use) I added a red cord eyeglass holder to replace zip ties Tools needed Drill 1/4" drill bit for metal Screwdriver for bolt Knife or tube cutter pencil or marker Drill out the threads I used WD-40 on the drill bit to keep the bit from overheating and melting the body work Insert a washer on the QR pin like so Plastic tubing needs to be cut to size, dont get QR pins mixed up. They will each be slightly different depending on how deep the threads are. Mark the point where the QR pin clicks into place Remove the washer and measure the tubeing to correct size I used a tube cutting tool but a sharp knife will do fine It is best if the tubing is a smidge longer than need be for a tight fitting QR pin Install the tube and the washer like so, I cut the eyeglass holder in half then tied the pieces to the inside of the frame with a sailors knot Finished Project The eyeglass holder matches the cording on my Corbin seat (trick) I have seen another member who used an elastic cord and drilled an access hole I just let it hang out the side. No worries about losing the pins. http://www.sargentcycle.com/acfastaccess.htm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jerky1280 Posted January 8, 2005 Share Posted January 8, 2005 Great mod, didn't have to cut the clear rubber piece. Makes access to under the seat a breeze. Kind of expensive for what they are, however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum CEO HispanicSlammer Posted November 16, 2005 Author Forum CEO Share Posted November 16, 2005 fixed the photos, I am getting around to fixing all the photos in these old how-to's. First I have to upload them to the server, that is if I can find the backups. Some I have to rename cause they have old file names from the camera I used, but then changed the names when I originally posted on the ikonboard forum. Then some have html in the post I have to remove, sucks ass to do that bunch of gobbly gook code I have to remove first, and some are all out of order after I redo them and they come out looking out of plac. Some have the descriptions on top of the photos instead of on the bottom. Its a mess, the old photo server I was using just dropped my account for no reason and so there are a lot of these old posts with dead pictures. It takes almost more time to redo them than to just delete the darn thread and start over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jerky1280 Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 I HIGHLY recommend installing something to keep the pins attached to your bike. I lost mine; read my earlier comment about how expensive they are to replace! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum CEO HispanicSlammer Posted May 14, 2006 Author Forum CEO Share Posted May 14, 2006 You can save about $4 if you order the pins from McMaster-Carr they have the same pins for about $15.26 each but then you need the rubber backed washers and a piece of 1/4 diameter tubing to space the pins tight. http://www.mcmaster.com border='0' alt='user posted image' /> Part Number: 90985A112 $15.29 Each Material Type Stainless Steel Finish Plain Stainless Steel Type Precipitation-Hardened Stainless Steel Pin Type Quick-Release Pins Quick Release Pin Type High-Profile Push-Button Diameter 1/4" Diameter Tolerance -.0015" to -.003" Usable Length 1" Usable Length Tolerance ?.020" Double Shear Strength 9,200 lbs. Rockwell Hardness C40 for the shank and spindle. C58-C62 for the balls. You can get rubber backed washers with 1/4 holes for about 20 cents each and a two inch long piece of tubing for about the same. save yourself some money to afford a sandwitch for lunch. McMaster has different style pins too and various lengths, the 1/4 inch diameter is what you need, and about an inch usable length if you want a different type of quick release pin. border='0' alt='user posted image' /> recessed might be safer to prevent loss by brushing up against things border='0' alt='user posted image' /> D ring border='0' alt='user posted image' /> High tenstion 4 ball design border='0' alt='user posted image' /> this one has a T handle and lanyard built in border='0' alt='user posted image' /> this one has a spring loaded ball with a shoulder built in to prevent pushing in too far 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum CEO HispanicSlammer Posted May 14, 2006 Author Forum CEO Share Posted May 14, 2006 correction useable lenth is about an inch- you can get them longer to space the head out for easy access with the tubing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cbxfixer Posted August 4, 2006 Share Posted August 4, 2006 (edited) Have had them for years - cant bring myself to install them. The "Frankenbolts" take a bit more effort to remove and I store some fairly costly hardware under my cowl (two piece Sargent seat with the rear section removed). Maybe they are just enough to "keep an honest man - honest". Best regards, John Edited August 9, 2006 by cbxfixer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dsirl Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 Why not get the 3/16 pins from McMaster and avoid the drilling? :idea3: I am thinking of installing the sargents but I dont' want to drill out the threads. Has anyone tried this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer VFR FLYER Posted February 27, 2007 Member Contributer Share Posted February 27, 2007 i am confused? (again!) i have a y2k and removing the seat has nothing to do with these bolts. when i commute with the bike i use these bolts to tie on my lunch box (six pack cooler(got to have good lunch)). i fail to see any benefit (but i'm married so what do i know!) i have noticed that in hs how-tos the pic are always excellant however; the most trick thing here is in the finished project photo has a shadow photographer :thumbsup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest atlantic Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 i am confused? (again!) i have a y2k and removing the seat has nothing to do with these bolts. when i commute with the bike i use these bolts to tie on my lunch box (six pack cooler(got to have good lunch)). i fail to see any benefit (but i'm married so what do i know!)i have noticed that in hs how-tos the pic are always excellant however; the most trick thing here is in the finished project photo has a shadow photographer :thumbsup: They lock the seat cowl into place. Don't need them to remove the seat. Helpful if you take the seat cowl on or off very often. This mod was done to my bike by the previous owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum CEO HispanicSlammer Posted February 27, 2007 Author Forum CEO Share Posted February 27, 2007 i am confused? (again!) i have a y2k and removing the seat has nothing to do with these bolts. when i commute with the bike i use these bolts to tie on my lunch box (six pack cooler(got to have good lunch)). i fail to see any benefit (but i'm married so what do i know!)i have noticed that in hs how-tos the pic are always excellant however; the most trick thing here is in the finished project photo has a shadow photographer :thumbsup: If your rear cowl is on - frankenbolts included - go right ahead and try to remove the seat without removing the frankenbolts?! Unless you have a 6th gen? You have to take off the rear cowl to take off the seat, which means remove the frakenbolts. Not a big deal if your not needing to get under the seat all the time. Frankenbolts require you to carry a hex key or a flat head somewhere (not under the seat with the toolbag)! For me it was just easier to do the mod, after having lost a frankenbolt on the road, after not torquing it enough with my crappy flat head screw driver in my tankbag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest D4N Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 (edited) Frankenbolts require you to carry a hex key or a flat head somewhere (not under the seat with the toolbag)! Or a nickel works great too. I still think this is cool mod though! Edited January 10, 2009 by D4N Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyguyeddy Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 i bought the smaller pins so i didnt have to do any drilling. if anyone buys the smaller pins i have about 98 of the rubber washers being as i had to order a bag of 100. shoot me a pm ill get u out some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest OldWriter Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 i am confused? (again!) i have a y2k and removing the seat has nothing to do with these bolts. when i commute with the bike i use these bolts to tie on my lunch box (six pack cooler(got to have good lunch)). i fail to see any benefit (but i'm married so what do i know!)i have noticed that in hs how-tos the pic are always excellant however; the most trick thing here is in the finished project photo has a shadow photographer :thumbsup: I just installed a used like new cowl on my 99. It is so nice looking that now I would not DARE use the Frankenbolts as a Bungee cord tiedown. Wouldn't dare damage that nice red paint. I am thinking about the quick release pins as a result of not needing a tie down point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer AnikMankar Posted February 8, 2010 Member Contributer Share Posted February 8, 2010 so which type of PIN was used / thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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