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Hi all 

I am in the need of the right side radiator or both side radiators 

in used but good condition is ok , no bent over fins ,holes or cracks. 

new condition also an option. 

They are for a 2003 VFR800 

 

Cheers 

kris 

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Hi Kris.

Do you have a Motorcycle wrecker in Darwin? Or perhaps you could take them along to a radiator specialist, they can often rebuild, clean or restore them. Good luck and hope you are seeing some big light at the end of the tunnel with your bike issues.

Cheers.

Grum.

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Sorry for the late replies been away at the Finke desert race , what a blast another great year and great results. 

 

I have been to the motorcycle wrecker in Darwin they pretty much had a giggle when I asked about radiators for my bike. 

I then went to the radiator place that is well spoken of and I was told to buy new ones. It seemed he wasn't interested in repairing my radiators. Then he gave me a price of near $1000 supply. 

 

So I'm  at a stand still until I find a better price as I'm trying to steer clear of the new ones on eBay from China for $218 the pair ( them seem too cheap ) 

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I'd go with those China ones. The world is so slow to update its view, I still have ingrained in my head from the 70's that "Jap is Crap" & it was but has not been for a LONG time !

 

Same effect in place with China now. I remember buying my first stuff from there way back in Y2K & thinking I would be lucky if it was passible, turned out perfect, as has most of the stuff I've bought from there since. if you think that much of what ou buy on a daily basis is made there, but because its sold under a known brand name at home, everyone thinks its OK, same stuff same source, no BRAND & suddenly its crap !  Go figure. That's pretty much a throw away price too !

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I've definitely had some junk from China, but I've definitely gotten some great deals as well. The biggest area that seems to fall short on Chinese products is the final inspection, so be sure to look things over very carefully.

 

As for the Chinese radiators, I can't say anything specific about the viffer replacements, but a friend was in a similar position for his Husky... the OEM replacement was stupidly expensive, and it was going to be a wait. He ordered a Chinese replacement off eBay for a fraction of the cost and it was excellent. The welds were top notch and it has held up perfectly for 3 years so far.

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couple more links off ebay, this time the parts are in the USA

Right hand rad

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/C138-2003-02-09-Honda-Interceptor-VFR-800-Right-Radiator-Cooling-Front-Fluid-/272263265835?hash=item3f6427be2b:g:p08AAOSwmtJXUjKe

 

Left hand rad

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/C138-2003-2004-02-09-Honda-Interceptor-VFR-800-Left-Radiator-Cooling-Front-Fluid-/282057482534?hash=item41abefa126:g:mYMAAOSwMNxXUe1a

 

Just to agree with marvelicious, I've said this before that Mr Honda doesn't have his own Radiator manufacturing facility, he buys them from a third party and stamps/bags/boxes/labels them up as Honda, doubles or triples the cost and rubs his hands with glee when someone buys one off him instead of off the people actually making them, (based on 40 years manufacturing experience where the practice is common place)

 

Good Luck

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Hi all its been a while , the bike is dusted up and battery flat as I've concentrated on another project. 

 

Anyway I bit the Bullet and bought a pair of new radiators from China (I'm awaiting arrival) 

$218 delivered , after speaking with the mechanic at work that races bikes , he has used them with no issues for the last few years both on his track bikes and dirt bikes. 

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Good luck Kris. I hope this will be the final episode of your VFR dramas and you can finally get out on the road to enjoy it. Keep us posted.

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Hi 

cheers Grum , mate fingers crossed this is it. 

Will keep ya posted , I received the 

radiators today YIPPEE , not bad aye 1 week since ordering from China and they are in my hands. 

 

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The welds are perfect no under cut and continuous welds no stop starts at all. 

 

Radiators are installed , 1st test run out of the way and all looks good , coolant level check in the morning and it should be all good from there.

 

its sort of good timing that it is running sweet , here in Darwin NT it is dry season so it's perfect weather to be out riding and the boss lady has givin the green light to purchase a brand new bike. 

 

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Hi Kris.

Glad to hear you're on the road again and sounds like the bike is running well - good effort BUT what's this I hear, you're getting a brand new one!!! So what happens to the 03 VFR and are you getting the 8gen VFR?

Cheers.

Wish I was getting some Darwin weather down hear!

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Hi Grum 

yeah mate finally its sorted , thank you for the info mate that has been passed on. 

 

Yeah new new bike not a VFR though mate ... Something different I'm going a cruiser big VTwin. 

I will probably keep the VFR800 unless I get a good trade in price as everything is for sale or trade for the right $$$. 

 

the weather is awesome at the moment it's actually cool at night ,well for us Territorians lol 

 

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On 2 July 2016 at 4:42 PM, Grum said:

Hi Kris.

Glad to hear you're on the road again and sounds like the bike is running well - good effort BUT what's this I hear, you're getting a brand new one!!! So what happens to the 03 VFR and are you getting the 8gen VFR?

Cheers.

Wish I was getting some Darwin weather down hear!

So the new bike on hold for the moment , wedding and new house to pay for before anything. 

Last night i got the second test ride out of the way it was 24deg c and the over heating issue is still there. The 1st 10min of riding everything is working as it should the coolant temp on dash is reading between 85deg c and 89deg c , after 10mins of riding the temp climbs up thermo fan kicks in and the temp rises to between 110deg c and 114deg c and pushes coolant out of the over flow hose onto the ground.

 

Today I will top up coolant and turn the radiator cap around 180deg to see what happens. 

 

So far :

New radiators 

2 x new radiator caps 

1 x used good radiator cap off my car

new thermostat

new spark plugs 

new air filter 

new thermostat housing hoses x3 

 

Its becomming a money pit and more than what the bike is worth to sell. 

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So I got up early and topped up the coolant , I inspected the cap and notice that the locking tabs were slightly bent out and not sitting flat so I sorted that out. 

I ran the bike up , the temp climbed to 104deg c and by feel both the radiators and top hoses were all still cold... 

I am baffled why the temp is 104deg c on the dash yet the radiators are stone cold 

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I took it for a ride soon after letting it run up , for the 1st ten minutes it ran cool sat around 82deg c ,ambient temp is 16deg c

about the 10 minute mark the  temp rose to 110 deg c and maxed at 114 deg c so I clicked it down 2 gears and got the revs up about 10,000 rpm and the temp dropped down to 97deg c. 

I started cruising in 5th at 100km/h the Temp rose again 114deg c 

i took it home and switched it off and I heard the cooling system bubbling for a minute or so. 

It had also dropped a little bit of coolant on the ground. 

Still baffled what is going on. 

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Hi Kris.

Sad to hear the saga continues. Are you sure the water pump is fine. Given everything you've done I can't think of any other reason as to why the radiators would be cold while the engine temp is high. Also wouldn't use anything but an OEM spec radiator cap.

Good Luck Kris.

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Hi Grum 

to me the water pump looks fine the seals the shaft the fins 

i had a very knowlagable mechanic that  races bikes also fixes them have a look at it he seems to think it's fine. 

 

Its weird how the cooling system works as it should , heats up then drops temp once thermostats opens up and holds the temp whilst riding ,That's for the 1st 10mins of riding and then after 10mins ....the temp rises between 97 deg c and 114deg c and spews coolant out on the ground also I can't seem to have it sit at a temp whilst riding it fluctuates very quickly between 97-114 deg c and is only at 97 deg c once I open it up and have it revving about 10,000 rpm and higher , soon as I sit about 5000 rpm it hits 114deg c. 

 

Its ts baffled me why the 1st 10mins or riding it's all good then after the 10mins it's overheating and spewing coolant. 

 

Once the bike cools it does suck back out of the overflow bottle back into the radiators. that to me says the pressure and vacuum side of things are working normal. 

 

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Hi Kris.

Have you tried starting with a cold engine, radiator cap off, run engine warm up, around 78degC when the thermostat opens you should see coolant flow into the radiator as the coolant enters the top and exits the bottom, that should verify your water pump operation. Don't allow the engine to get too hot for the obvious reasons!

Other than a physical blockage in the lines, air in the system OR a head gasket issue, what else could cause your issue?

Stop start riding in Darwin will have the thermatic fan switching on in no time, but it shouldn't cause the problems you're having.

 

A quote from the service manual. NOTICE. Using coolant with silicate inhibitors may cause premature wear of water pump seals or blockage of radiator passages. Using tap water may cause engine damage.

 

Who knows what the previous owner has done to the cooling system!

Good Luck.

Cheers.

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Are you positive you have all the air bled out of the system? If you've got a bubble up high, the water pump won't push it out. The air space gives steam room to expand and so the problem gets worse as the block heats up. I forget exactly what I did when I changed the coolant on mine, but I do remember leaning the bike over to get the air out of the system. I think I did it a couple of times each way topping the system off after, then a couple of times each way at idle.

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Hi Grum 

with the engine cold (1st start up for the day) if I take the radiator or cap off and start the bike the coolant flows out of the filler neck. When the temp rises to allow for thermostat to open the coolant level lowers in the filler neck but then rises again and flows out of the filler neck. 

 

Hi marvelicious 

i have had the bike lent over on the side stand bit of a mission leaning the bike that far over and trying to manage filling with coolant and holding the spilless funnel. 

 

i have a water pump on its way purchased today just to eliminate the water pump. 

And if it's still overheating id say a head gasket or cracked head. 

 

Cheers for the replies 

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