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Why hasn't this been started yet? lol

 

 

Disappointing Argentine appearance for Honda... what are they missing this year that Yamaha isn't?

 

Good showing by most of the premier class new guys, Zarco looks to be a wild one and I'm interested to see if the "Folger" becomes a "Fuehrer"... 

 

What a great feeling for Vinales... still a Honda fan but can't deny that Yamaha team's ability to set up a bike.

 

And no, I don't feel bad for Lose-oro Lorenzo... be fun to watch him learn to ride the Duc, if he can...

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According to the Honda riders, the Honda still seems to have software issues and with acceleration in particular. Both Cal and Marquez seem to do best with late braking in order to keep up. Probably why Marquez went down, too much front brake.

 

Honda definitely needs to do something as Yamaha seems to have the ticket right now, even with the satellite bikes and I'll add, in WSBK too. Both Bradl and Hayden are suffering while the Yamaha's are at least up front, until the Kawasakis and Ducatis take over.

 

Honda, Ducati and Suzuki didn't do well in Argentina. Poor Dovi, can't seem to catch a break in Argentina. Being that Austin is one Marquez better tracks, hoping he can do better than the first two races.

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My analysis of the teams at Argentina:

Honda - Their bike has an unrideable engine this year. Turn 2 at Rio Hondo has bad grip so their usual habit of floating the rear to swing it out resulted in them tucking the front. MM93 is under pressure for the first time in GP, he's learned that crashing hurts, he's trying to learn but maturing hurts.

Yamaha - MV is the heir apparent unless he gets too much ego and cracks. They seem to have a winning package as usual. Rossi might take second in the championship or if everyone else cracks he might win from third.

Ducati - Who knows, if only they could not crash.

Suzuki - Pretty much.

Aprilla - Still playing catchup. They seem to have the handling and speed, but just not enough of it.

KTM - Same as Ape.

Tech 3 Yamaha - I feel like they might win the independent championship. Zarco and Folger really have their shit together and seem to be consistent riders.

LCR - Crutchlow is a good racer when he isn't crashing. Maybe LCR figured out that they need to give him a consistent bike instead of changing shit all the time. If only it rained all the time he'd probably do better.

 

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Despite MV's 2 for 2, the first two races have been great entertainment. I have to go back to Phillip Island 2015 for a race I enjoyed more.

 

Interesting to me is to watch parc ferme, where VR46 has gone out of his way to show how he is best friends with his new teammate MV. Obviously this is a poke at last year's factory Yamaha teammate, but I also think this is genuine. I believe that VR is almost as happy finishing 2nd and beating Lorenzo and Marquez as he would be winning. Especially since his teammate is Spanish, and is already eclipsing the other Spanish aliens.

 

And, although I have no idea how the season will play out, it blows me away to see MM already being overtaken by the next New Kid in Town.

 

I have tickets for TWO motogp's this year, can't wait!

 

P.S. Poor Dovi, his new Ducati graphics should just be a bullseye...

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That short straight looked bumpy and combine that with the transition, looked like it was too much for the Honda set up.  MM looked very fast for the first few laps, Dani even seemed to pick up the pace once he got a little clear track.  Texas is a MM track so we will see how he does.  The Ducs need to qualify better.

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2 hours ago, St. Stephen said:

I have tickets for TWO motogp's this year, can't wait!

 

 

Coming to Assen are you???  :goofy:

 

I'll let you ride my SP if you do!

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1 hour ago, Dutchy said:

 

 

Coming to Assen are you???  :goofy:

 

I'll let you ride my SP if you do!

 

Hmmm. Can you arrange a few laps at speed? Anyway, I thought you bought an RC51, not an SP. :wink:

 

Headed to Mugello to experience Rossi mania in all its glory.

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Can anybody clarify if the Hondas were the 2017 bike or last year's bike? Could it be that they are still trying to get them dialled in ? I mean It was the same crash by both boys

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1 hour ago, Lordy said:

Can anybody clarify if the Hondas were the 2017 bike or last year's bike? Could it be that they are still trying to get them dialled in ? I mean It was the same crash by both boys

My understanding is that they have a new engine but not sure about the chassis.

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12 hours ago, St. Stephen said:

 

Hmmm. Can you arrange a few laps at speed? Anyway, I thought you bought an RC51, not an SP. :wink:

 

Headed to Mugello to experience Rossi mania in all its glory.

 

In the EU, the bike was sold as the VTR1000-SP.  Our VIN numbers read SC45, not RC51...  :-)

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For 2017 Honda went to a Big Bang V4 to try and tame the aggressive nature of the old V4. 

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I'm not convinced there's anything worse about this years Honda bike than last years.  Marquez choose the wrong tire in Qatar.  He was fast in Argentina, but crashed.  I like Pedrosa but he's been slow most races for the past couple years (I think he's just in decline).

 

If Marquez doesn't crash anymore, he should still be able to fight for 1st place.

 

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I know it's a stupid question and insulting to think the mechanics might have overlooked it, but are they using the ECU-G?

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2 hours ago, jhenley17 said:

I know it's a stupid question and insulting to think the mechanics might have overlooked it, but are they using the ECU-G?

UM, sounds like no, as they are suffering from lack of acceleration. If they had used the ECU-G, they would have been able to release all of the factory power!

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5 hours ago, Duc2V4 said:

UM, sounds like no, as they are suffering from lack of acceleration. If they had used the ECU-G, they would have been able to release UNLEASH all of the factory power!

 

Fixed it for you! :wink:  :goofy:

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There's a lot of cry foul over the tire choices at Argentina. Personally I think the sporting press is trying to generate a conspiracy and narrative where none exists. Consider that, like at Qatar, the race was held in different conditions than practice and qualifying.  Which means that none of the racers were able to really have a good 100% feel of what a specific compound would feel like on that track and in those conditions.

 

Hence riders tucking their front end on the admittedly bumpy corner entrance of T2 and others.

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Great race by the Repsol brothers, and good to see Lorenzo seems to be adapting to the Ducati...

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