Member Contributer Burns Posted February 15, 2017 Member Contributer Share Posted February 15, 2017 so, who knows about the Power Commander 2's? seems to be very limited information on Dynojet's site. Anyone have the software download and are the maps the same between the PC2 and the PC3's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artpongs Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Your bikes are carbureted ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Burns Posted February 15, 2017 Author Member Contributer Share Posted February 15, 2017 just picked up a 2000.. so yes, it's FI, and it has a PC2 on it already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artpongs Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Are you making any changes to it? Should already be mapped by previous owner right? Otherwise I think you could pick up the PC3. Or get it tuned but not sure if dyno centers use the 2 or if they are compatible with all software. Art Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer KevCarver Posted February 15, 2017 Member Contributer Share Posted February 15, 2017 PM Wera803. He's got a bunch of PCII maps. He's got a PCIII on his '01 now, but had a PCII before. Sounds like they take different mapping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer MadScientist Posted February 15, 2017 Member Contributer Share Posted February 15, 2017 I uploaded a bunch of old powercommander maps and the software to edit PC2 and PC3 maps to the downloads section: There is another I just saw by knight that is more recent: There might be useful files in either of those. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Burns Posted February 16, 2017 Author Member Contributer Share Posted February 16, 2017 thanks for the replies.. I'll start with the downloads and see what works. The plan is to switch over to the pre-2000 headers (to lose the cat and some weight) and then go w/ a '99 map. I'm to understand that the PCii's also have ignition advance feature in them, so that's something else to explore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wera803 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Be careful with the ignition advance feature. I used one of Hispanic Slammers maps from his 98 that had the ignition advanced and my bike ran well right up until about 9k or 10k rpm where it abruptly stopped gaining rpm. I did that 2 or 3 times to verify things and quickly changed the map. Not sure what would be different about the '00 & '01 bikes to cause that, but ignition advancement did not work for my 2001. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Burns Posted February 16, 2017 Author Member Contributer Share Posted February 16, 2017 46 minutes ago, wera803 said: Be careful with the ignition advance feature. I used one of Hispanic Slammers maps from his 98 that had the ignition advanced and my bike ran well right up until about 9k or 10k rpm where it abruptly stopped gaining rpm. I did that 2 or 3 times to verify things and quickly changed the map. Not sure what would be different about the '00 & '01 bikes to cause that, but ignition advancement did not work for my 2001. looks like the manual I found agrees... Quote Honda VFR800 Table 1 AAP (barometric pressure sensor) This table can be used to add or remove fuel from 10% through 100% throttle. The maximum value for adding fuel is "9". The maximum value for removing fuel is "-35".Table 2 TP (throttle position) This table can be used to add fuel at throttle settings between 5% and 80% if Table 1 does not allow the desired fuel ratio. Small changes in this table equal large changes in fuel delivery.Table 3 MP (manifold pressure/vacuum) This table is used to adjust fuel delivery at small throttle openings, 0% through 5%. Large values are required to make a noticeable change in fuel delivery (steps of "5" or so). Maximum value is "125", but if a value over "35" is used it might be necessary to use Table 2 in this area.Table 4 Ignition Adjustment for ignition timing is +4/-11 degrees. Timing is adjustable from 2,000 rpm to redline at all throttle positions. On street bikes with normal fuel, advancing the timing does little to improve power. It is possible on some models to achieve small gains as long as the highest octane fuel available is used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artpongs Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Get it professionally dyne tuned and you have your own custom map for you setup. Worth it. My mods are piper cross filter, micron slip on, and pc3. DMR suspension and brake delink. Art Art VFR800 Dyno.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Burns Posted February 16, 2017 Author Member Contributer Share Posted February 16, 2017 eventually I hope to do that.. and my final setup should be similar to yours.... this is mostly research on my part currently. since I really have no information on what's loaded in the bike or such... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artpongs Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Well from what I understand, you just acquired the bike from the PO right? Everything set up on it as you received it? Unless he did a hack job, it should have the correct map, or fairly close one for it. How does it run? I understand wanting to know what is actually on the unit and moving on from there. Have you tried emailing dynojet to see what your options are for legacy product? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer MadScientist Posted February 16, 2017 Member Contributer Share Posted February 16, 2017 You didn't say if you had a cable or not. The PC2 uses an RS-232 serial connection and some (most? many? all?) usb to serial adapter cables will not connect correctly. I bought 2 different ones since I was aware of the issue, and neither worked. I ended up using a really old laptop that still had a serial port. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artpongs Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 1 hour ago, MadScientist said: You didn't say if you had a cable or not. The PC2 uses an RS-232 serial connection and some (most? many? all?) usb to serial adapter cables will not connect correctly. I bought 2 different ones since I was aware of the issue, and neither worked. I ended up using a really old laptop that still had a serial port. Burns I can sell you a really old laptop with a serial port for $20. You would need to find your own copy of windows for it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Burns Posted February 17, 2017 Author Member Contributer Share Posted February 17, 2017 LOL... probably have have 2 or 3 old laptops sitting in the den.. and a USB/serial cable or two laying around. The PO swapped pipes from an aftermarket back to a stock pipe (working on fixing that). My plan is to swap to '99 headers (to loose the cat) and some sort of high-mount.. haven't cracked the airbox yet, so no idea what filter is in there, if the flapper been done, etc. Haven't really even gotten to properly ride the bike yet, due to wx and work - what little I have done, I've noticed an odd stumble/delay right off idle - very brief. I don't recall this on the other 5th gens I've ridden. Dynojet did send me a couple links - basically what I already found on their site. install for the hardware, and the control software. I had to scour the inet for a user manual of the software. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EX-XX Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 On 2/17/2017 at 9:49 AM, MadScientist said: You didn't say if you had a cable or not. The PC2 uses an RS-232 serial connection and some (most? many? all?) usb to serial adapter cables will not connect correctly. I bought 2 different ones since I was aware of the issue, and neither worked. I ended up using a really old laptop that still had a serial port. Worked perfectly for mine. Dell Venue Pro (2015?), Windows 10, running Virtualised XP (with USB pas-through), assigned the comm port to (X) and changed the Power Commander software preferences to suit, and it fired right up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lint Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 I bought this cable based on a recommendation from a member here. After I installed the drivers on a Windows 7 laptop, I tried it. Thought it didn't work, them I had the thought to try holding all the buttons down while I switched the ignition to on. It didn't immediately work, but when I then tried it again and held the buttons down for about fifteen seconds (or so), and it connected! As long as I follow this protocol, it connects every time! Sabrent USB 2.0 to Serial (9-Pin) DB-9 RS-232 Converter Cable, Prolific Chipset, Hexnuts, [Windows 10/8.1/8/7/VISTA/XP, Mac OS X 10.6 and Above] 2.5 Feet (CB-DB9P) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IDSM6BW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_taa_qAPFAbAGQNDCA I installed a map that uses 93 octane. I have a K&N air filter with Delkevic header and a Two Brothers Racing pipe. I'm wrapping up some fairing repairs and then I'll be riding again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lint Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 The maps I downloaded from here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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