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My 2014 did 211 miles on 4.7 us gallons(almost 45 mpg). With only a half gallon remaining, I think that's as far as I would push it. 

 

This was mostly city commuting and going to job sites for work. 

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4.7 US gallons is just under 18 litres  have managed to get to 20 litres cant remember mileage as  she was  making progress but it was just below the 200 miles mark.

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I'm one of those annoying types that records every refuel and crunches the stats, but in my defense, it makes tax-time a breeze, and helps identify potential mechanical problems affecting mileage early on. I'm also one of those annoying types that live in a country that uses the Metric system. :-p

Avg Distance between refuels: 387 km

Avg Fuel refill: 19.3 litres

Avg Petrol Price: 133.7 cents per litre (AUD)

Avg Refuel cost: $25.92 (AUD)

Avg Kilometres travelled per litre: 19.88 km

Avg Litres per 100km: 5.04 litres
Best Litres per 100km: 4.49 litres

Worst Litres per 100km: 5.44 litres

 

Compared with 2007 Gen-6 VFR-800:

Avg Kilometres travelled per litre: 15.93 km

Avg Litres per 100km: 6.30 litres
Best Litres per 100km: 5.29 litres

Worst Litres per 100km: 7.62 litres

 

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Can easily travel 400k's before refuelling. And as NZCam shows, it most certainly has better economy than my three previous 6gens. Mostly run 91 octane.

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This is my best so far, and it took 4.8 gallons to fill the tank.  I've been using 91 octane, non-ethanol fuel.

 

 

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When I reset the trip meter this morning I was at 48.5 MPG avg after about 500 miles since last reset.

 

Always use 87 octane (and it would generally be E10 although I have a few "pure" stations around here, no E15 around here AFAIK).

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The furthest I've been before the last bar started flashing is 218 miles, but normally that happens any time after 190 miles. The furthest I've been after the last bar has started flashing to when I stopped for fuel was 30 miles (those weren't the same time). According to spritmonitor.de and fuelly.com it's averaging 53.3 MPG (UK gallons) on 'standard' unleaded which is 95 RON in the UK.

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110 miles before my arse is squeeking and I have to stop for stand-up and walk around, so I might as well fill up. I managed 150 miles before stopping once  but was wriggling around on the seat in agony.  I don't have an iron butt like some of you guys.

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I routinely get 50+mpg on regular, 1/3 background 2/3 highway (but congested highway, so it's half 80+ and half stop and go).  Usually fill up at 188 miles (1 day back and forth to work) for just over 3 gallons.

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Routinely get 55  ish mpg, sometimes better, sometimes worse.  I can count on close to 60mpg touring though, and will routinely go past 200 miles before a gas stop.

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With my 8th gen I routinely get 250+ miles per tank, sometimes on flash, sometimes not. I haven't tried to get 300 miles on a tank, always in too much of a hurry. Keep in mind, I commute on California freeways where its legal to lane split, so very little stop & go. My 6th gens showed 220 miles under similar conditions, with a bigger tank.

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Looks like higher compression ratio and even milder cam/header tuning is really helping the efficiency on these eighth gens versus the old 6th gens.

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On July 27, 2016 at 9:37 AM, CandyRedRC46 said:

Looks like higher compression ratio and even milder cam/header tuning is really helping the efficiency on these eighth gens versus the old 6th gens.

 

Well, I was going to say you were wrong on the changed compression ratio until I just looked it up.  I would have been wrong.  Didn't realize it increased a tad.

 

My 2014 does get significantly better mileage than either my previous 5th or 6th gens. and still has plenty of giddy-up.  I used to get as low as 38mpg when railing in the mountains and I have yet to get lower than 45 doing the same with the newish 8th gen.  Ain't it just amazin' ? 

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On 28 July 2016 at 0:07 AM, CandyRedRC46 said:

Looks like higher compression ratio and even milder cam/header tuning is really helping the efficiency on these eighth gens versus the old 6th gens.

Penny to a pound the fuel efficiency advancements for the 8th Gen vs the 6th (& 5th) Gen is down to advancements in the fuel injection/engine management systems. Honda persisted in making their own in house PGM_F1 system even though it was clear the specialist suppliers (especially the europeans like Bosch & Magneti Morelli) were generations down the track from where Honda was playing. Really would like any 8th owners who previously 6th owners to have a peep under the tank/airbox and see whats under there.

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On 7/29/2016 at 11:09 PM, dfh said:

Penny to a pound the fuel efficiency advancements for the 8th Gen vs the 6th (& 5th) Gen is down to advancements in the fuel injection/engine management systems. Honda persisted in making their own in house PGM_F1 system even though it was clear the specialist suppliers (especially the europeans like Bosch & Magneti Morelli) were generations down the track from where Honda was playing. Really would like any 8th owners who previously 6th owners to have a peep under the tank/airbox and see whats under there.

 

You really think the ecu and injectors were updated for the eight gen? Time for a part number search. I am willing to bet that the increased efficiency is strictly from the increase in compression plus milder intake cams, longer velocity stacks and more conservative exhaust design and mapping.

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14 minutes ago, CandyRedRC46 said:

 

You really think the ecu and injectors were updated for the eight gen? Time for a part number search. I am willing to bet that the increased efficiency is strictly from the increase in compression plus milder intake cams, longer velocity stacks and more conservative exhaust design and mapping.

Indeed thats what I think, at least as far as the engine management systems go. Injectors? Nah. 

The 6th Gen was one of the first Euro3 compliant bikes, but that was a decade & a half ago. The 8th Gen is now Euro 4 compliant & much more fuel efficient in the real world as noted by others in this thread. Thats the worth of advances in engine management.

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Well the 2007 vs 2015 injectors are identical, same part number, so that's that....

I am having trouble locating the 2006-2010 vfr800 ecu part number.

 

2015 injector 16450-MEL-003
2007 injector 16450-MEL-003

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Looks like it is a new ECU

 

2008 VFR800 pgm-fi unit part number: 38770-MCW-H01

                                                              38770-MCW-K01

2015 VFR800 pgm-fi unit part number: 38770-MJM-A02

                                                              38770-MJM-A03

                                                              38770-MJM-A14

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I think you'll find its a combination of the things CR has mentioned & that the bike is configured to run leaner everywhere. 45impg is not much of an improvement on 40mpg the 5/6th gens could manage. My CBR600F4 used to get 55mpg in similar riding.  I believe the V4's have always run rich to aid with rear cylinder cooling, so they have always been inefficient compared to other bikes. Remember this engine was designed as the RC45, they tweaked it for the 6th gen, but its basically the same architecture, which means its over 20years in production already. Not bad if they managed to make it euro4 compliant, when most others have had to be scrapped or replaced with newer engines to pass euro4 !

 

I have averaged 38impg, for all the time I've had the bike, on my eurotour earlier this year on the gentle days it managed 41-42impg, but yesterday it did 160miles to the reserve bar started flashing, all of that was in the 80-90mph speed range. So its a speedy engine, I get 160miles on 50-65mph runs too, so no losses when going faster, unless its over 100mph, or lots of hard acceleration, like my track day a couple of weeks back that averaged 25impg !

 

YMMV

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