Member Contributer HughJebolzak Posted June 22, 2016 Member Contributer Share Posted June 22, 2016 I recently got back from my inaugural road trip. Four days through the Catskills, Adirondacks and Finger Lakes area of NY state. Good trip to try out my "new to me" '99 VFR. The bike came with many upgrades, one of them being a Sargent seat. I typically go on an annual 9 day ride through the Appalachians on either my SV650 with gel saddle or my FJR (now sold) with a stock saddle. Without fail, my butt starts to ache half way through the day and by the end of the day is completely on fire. On this trip we had long days, the longest of which was 10.5 hours (with some breaks). Normally my kiester would have suffered severely. Much to my delight, this Sargent seat gave me a pain free experience. I know many of you have praised these and other aftermarket saddles. I thought I would throw my hat into the ring on this one. Excellent saddle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer paulmeisterpk Posted June 23, 2016 Member Contributer Share Posted June 23, 2016 Dang, I thought you were selling one. I was going to call dibs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer slowbird Posted June 25, 2016 Member Contributer Share Posted June 25, 2016 Is yours the 2 piece version? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer paulmeisterpk Posted June 30, 2016 Member Contributer Share Posted June 30, 2016 I just ordered a new Sargent. Going to compare it to my Corbin and keep whichever one I like better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epyon007 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 On 6/30/2016 at 9:41 AM, paulmeisterpk said: I just ordered a new Sargent. Going to compare it to my Corbin and keep whichever one I like better! I know this was a while ago but what was the verdict? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer paulmeisterpk Posted January 4, 2017 Member Contributer Share Posted January 4, 2017 The Sargent was softer than the Corbin, and was a huge improvement over the stock seat, but I think I actually like the firmness of the Corbin better. However, the Corbin seemed to have a hump in the middle of the seat, and it would try to split me in half over longer rides, so I had my corbin modified by an upholstery shop this winter to take the hump down. If that is the solution, I will keep the Corbin. My lighter friends seemed to prefer the softer Sargent seat when they rode my bike, but I'm 6'-0" 210 lbs, and I think I prefer the firmer Corbin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epyon007 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Ahh you still have both! Or access to them as way. Were in Wisconsin are you? I've been thinking about a new seat, kind of a preemptive strike for getting into some distance riding. I have yet to sit on either of the two seats. If you still have them both this coming season would you bill will to let me have sit on them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer paulmeisterpk Posted January 5, 2017 Member Contributer Share Posted January 5, 2017 I am in Madison. If I still have both the seats you are welcome to come and sit on them. No problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epyon007 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Great, now hopefully I remember when the time comes to ride again hahaha....ughhh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer SCguy Posted January 5, 2017 Member Contributer Share Posted January 5, 2017 Epyon, give thought to getting your stock seat redone. I had Seth Laam at Laam Seats do mine, and I love it! So much more comfortable, looks better, I can still move around a bit in the twisties. It was around $350, if I'm remembering right, but he custom builds them to your height, weight and special desires. I got a little bump added up by the tank so I don't slam forward under braking. With my stock seat, I was squirming after 100 miles, now I've done 650+ in a day and could have kept on riding. Sent from my LG-H900 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epyon007 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 I have to say that the extra storage afforded by the Sargent seat is a MAJOR contributing factor. In all my tenure of motorcycle riding I have only ever had stock seats so I don't even know what I'm missing here. When I did my trip to Chicago from Minneapolis (400 miles) I did it on a stock Concours 1400 seat wearing cycling shorts under my Dainese touring pants. I can't say that I had any issues. Now granted I was stopping every 50-80 miles, this was my first tour, so that may have been part of it. I don't see much information on the internet about custom seats, how they build them, why they do what they do and how to interpret what you want. I like to educate myself about these kind of things before I jump in when ever possible. 650+ mile day is quite a day!!! Any pictures of your seat? What did you have him do to it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer SCguy Posted January 5, 2017 Member Contributer Share Posted January 5, 2017 Here's the seat. That 650 mile day was at the end of a week booking it home from New Mexico to South Carolina. Most days were around 500 miles. Very comfortable. I just got back from riding down to Florida. Roughly 500 miles each way. If you think about it, being able to ride that far comfortably saves money from less hotel stays and maximizes fun riding time. Seth cut down the foam, reshaped it, added several layers of different density foams and then recovered it in a carbon fiber look vinyl. Sent from my LG-H900 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epyon007 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Oh interesting that he did the flared sides. That looks kinda goofy to be and I would think the more contact with the seat your butt has the worse it would be. But your account would seem to contradict that. I'm so used to thinking about saddles like road bike saddles which really isn't the same. Though I could do 100 miles on a piece of Carbon fiber covered with leather and be fine.... HEH thanks for sharing SC!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer SCguy Posted January 5, 2017 Member Contributer Share Posted January 5, 2017 Actually, think about it like this, the more butt contact, the more spread out the weight. This way you don't have pressure points. The seats a bit wider as I'm a bit of a big boy. He'll shape it and size it to your request. Sent from my LG-H900 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epyon007 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 OK good to know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer KevCarver Posted January 5, 2017 Member Contributer Share Posted January 5, 2017 The 2 piece with storage under the tail cowl is pretty cool! I cut my stocker to replicate it for several years before I sprung for the Sargent. If you have a Givi rack you can get a second cowl and cut reliefs to allow the cowl to clear the mounts. Haven't done that yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer Cogswell Posted January 6, 2017 Member Contributer Share Posted January 6, 2017 5 hours ago, SCguy said: Seth cut down the foam, reshaped it, added several layers of different density foams Sent from my LG-H900 using Tapatalk ^^^ This is what I wish I had done with my OEM seat rather than purchase the Sargent. After I got the Sargent I still had to have it reshaped and multiple densities added to finally get it comfortable. I've seen my Sargent dis-assembled. The foam differs very little from the stocker except that it's somewhat harder. It's a single density. That probably works for some and not for others. Multiple densities gives you some compliance and cushioning to reduce pressure points without bottoming (no pun intended ) out on the seat pan. In the end it worked out but it would have been a lot cheaper for me to just re-work the original seat. The one pictured here looks great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epyon007 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Thanks for sharing your experiences! I still really want to try out what is available and go from there. This is kinda like buying a new motorcycle. You can't really get a good idea of what your buying until its too late hahaha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer BonusVFR Posted January 6, 2017 Member Contributer Share Posted January 6, 2017 Probably the best thing I ever did to my bike and for me! I was good for maybe two hundred miles before (And then pain) and that was when I was considerably younger. So when I really started doing longer tours the Sargent was the ticket and still is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Contributer MBrane Posted January 6, 2017 Member Contributer Share Posted January 6, 2017 Having ridden all 3 at 6' 205lbs: 1 Sargent. A click above stock. Didn't like it much at first, but it grew on me after some time. 2 Stock. Miles better than: 3 Corbin. Worst. Seat. Ever. Heavy, uncomfortable, and hard to move around on. The stock seat on my '94 was re-done by the PO with added foam. It's OK, but the Sargent on my '99 is still better for long days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epyon007 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 What are people's takes on stuff like an air hawk or other covers? I want to do that Chicago run again just not sure I'll be funded for a seat investment of this magnitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handbanana Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Thought i would chime in and mention anther option. I had spencer from greatdaytoride.com redo my sock seat with new foam. same original cover with better foam internals its also a little lower as im a shorter guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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