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#1 CharlesW

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 09:33 AM

My original intent was to post a half a$$ed review of the Pilot Road 2s on my 2004 at the 10,000 mile mark.
It's raining right now and this seemed like a good time to do it even though the miles are not quite to the 10k mark.

Since I'm not really an aggressive rider and we don't have many curvy roads, (I don't know if the entire state has 313 paved curves), my observations could be a little different than many.

The tires were purchased from Garvis Honda in Des Moines, IA. Installed and balanced by them as well.
I run 36# front, 42# rear, checked weekly and stays within a pound. That 1 pound variance could be my doing during the checking process. Good gauge, verified readings at a tire shop.

1. My bike had Pilot Roads when I bought it used and I had no complaints with them in the 4,000 miles I rode on them.

2. PR to PR2 handling is not that good of a comparison in my case. I do corner faster on the PR2s, but that could be because it took me a while to get familiar with the bike.

3. I do think the PR2 turned in a little quicker, but that might have been because they were new.

4. I have experienced very little side slip and even when I have hit small patches of sand/gravel, the PR2s seemed pretty forgiving. Meaning I stayed on two wheels. The tires are much more capable then me.

5. Ride is excellent. Smooth well into triple digit speeds. They took a very small amount of weight to be balanced.

6. I did notice some scalloping on the front tire around the 7,000 mile mark and it not only doesn't seem to have gotten any worse, it may have smoothed out a little. It was on the left side only and only on the side. Anyway, it has never been a problem.

7. I'm surprised that I am not yet to the wear bars and probably will get at least another couple of thousand miles out of the tires. Hard to say for sure since that last little bit of tread seems to go in a hurry.

8. It's very likely I will need to replace the front when I replace the rear. I read about people going through 2 or 3 rear tires to 1 front, but that has never been the case for me. I seem to wear them out about the same.

9. To the point. I'm happy with them and will most likely buy them again.

Rear, showing wear bars and straight road wear pattern.

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Front, showing wear bars.

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Front left. Scalloping hardly visible if at all.

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Front left. Scalloping more evident, (I think), at the bottom of the picture. Could be the lighting or the camera angle.

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#2 BlakeyTom

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 09:47 AM

I'd say you got your moneys worth. How was it dealing with Garvis for tires? I always have mixed feelings about that place, though I'm not really sure why.

#3 CharlesW

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 10:42 AM

I'd say you got your moneys worth. How was it dealing with Garvis for tires? I always have mixed feelings about that place, though I'm not really sure why.

I would agree on the money's worth, but I also have a set of Kenda's on my Nighthawk with about the same mileage and about the same wear. Both Kenda's cost less than just the front PR2. Probably not as sticky as the PR2's but still not too bad.

I have very good luck dealing with Garvis for anything. Not always the cheapest, but if you have an internet price, they will at least look at it and tell you how close they can come to it.
I can't remember the last time I bought anything motorcycle related that didn't come from either Garvis or eBay. :smile:

If you have a particular problem or question, talk to Steve in parts, Kurt in service, George Garvis Jr. in sales. If they can't take care of it for you then you probably will need to go elsewhere.
PM me if you have any questions.
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Posted 12 October 2011 - 10:44 AM

Cool, looks like you got another 5k left in them.
I think there a great tire, I run a PR2 rear and avg. 3500 miles from a rear, but live in the twisties! :tour:

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 10:50 AM

Cool, looks like you got another 5k left in them.
I think there a great tire, I run a PR2 rear and avg. 3500 miles from a rear, but live in the twisties! :tour:

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So what is the best mileage you have gotten out of a rear? I have my first PR2 on now but note enough miles to even get it a grade..

#6 CharlesW

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 10:56 AM

Cool, looks like you got another 5k left in them.
I think there a great tire, I run a PR2 rear and avg. 3500 miles from a rear, but live in the twisties! :tour:

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Since the season is drawing to a close here, I would like to finish the year on these and not have new tires setting in the garage all winter.
Should be pretty close. I have averaged about 1750 miles a month this year and a month is probably all we have left before the snow.
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Posted 12 October 2011 - 10:58 AM


Cool, looks like you got another 5k left in them.
I think there a great tire, I run a PR2 rear and avg. 3500 miles from a rear, but live in the twisties! :tour:

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So what is the best mileage you have gotten out of a rear? I have my first PR2 on now but note enough miles to even get it a grade..


The Most miles I've ever got out of any rear tire over the last 125,000 miles on VFR's was a PR2 rear that got 3800 miles! :ohmy:
Worst was 3300 miles from a PR2 rear.
I have dropped my Pace a little after my big crash so I'm sure that's helping my mileage numbers. :rolleyes:
If you've run Pilot Powers, I avg. 2200 miles from a rear for comparo.

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#8 2thdr

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 11:15 AM

My question is also related to riding habits affecting tire wear. You already said not much cornering or at least higher speed cornering...I get that with your roads and seeing the squared off tire it is self-explanatory. But how about throttle? I bet you rarely get into VTEC and get 40+ mpg ...am I right?
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#9 CharlesW

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 11:40 AM

My question is also related to riding habits affecting tire wear. You already said not much cornering or at least higher speed cornering...I get that with your roads and seeing the squared off tire it is self-explanatory. But how about throttle? I bet you rarely get into VTEC and get 40+ mpg ...am I right?

High speed cornering is pretty much a matter of opinion. Our "twisty" roads usually consist of a few 35 to 40 mph posted corners. 20 over those posted speeds is pretty regular, 30 over on occasion, 40 over when I need to elevate my heart rate. Most corners are taken in the 65 to 80 mph range.
Writing speeding tickets seems to be part of the revenue around here and they do a lot of radar patrolling. Hey, 5 over is $97 and it goes up rapidly from there. 3 moving violations in a year can cost you your license and you only drop one a year if you stay clean for 12 months. We won't even talk about what it does to your insurance. (Or so I have heard) :tongue:

As far as VTECH, I don't hit it every time I take off, but I do hit it a few times most every ride. I don't pay a lot of attention to mpg, but I do think I'm usually around the low to mid 40's.

You are defintely right about riding styles. I have a friend that rides both a VFR and a ST1300. The tread on the Pilot Road 2s he just replaced on the ST was almost V shaped. The sides were worn far more than the centers. He is what I would call a very aggressive rider.
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Posted 12 October 2011 - 11:59 AM

Damm! I think I'll get 3500...on my Metzler M-3 M5 Combo...My M3 rear is getting close to the worn out at a little of 3k. 9k is incredible!





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