[paul thompson]

OH YES...

http://www.motoblog....sso-per-le-alpi

[rufrydrsc2]

Wow. Glad we've actually found some real photos. I like it. Looks great!

This post has been edited by rufrydrsc2: 20 September 2009 - 06:34 AM

[paul thompson]

I know. It looks great. It'll look even better when i get the keys to it!!

[rc36Honda]

REPOST!!

[motorhead1977]

Looks way too much like the BMW K1300 S.

[SEBSPEED]

rc36Honda, on Sep 20 2009, 08:06 AM, said:

REPOST!!

You sure about that?

[mellowyellow]

motorhead1977, on Sep 20 2009, 08:42 AM, said:

Looks way too much like the BMW K1300 S.

whats wrong with that?

[motorhead1977]

SEBSPEED, on Sep 20 2009, 08:55 AM, said:

rc36Honda, on Sep 20 2009, 08:06 AM, said:

REPOST!!

You sure about that?

See?

[Rice]

mellowyellow, on Sep 20 2009, 08:56 AM, said:

motorhead1977, on Sep 20 2009, 08:42 AM, said:

Looks way too much like the BMW K1300 S.

whats wrong with that?

what is the expected reveal date?
I need to make plans.

It does look bigger than the 6th gen in the pictures. But camera is notorious for adding pounds.
No matter. A bigger bike will probably be a better fit for my new, more sedate riding style.

[DDO-VFR]

BEAUTY!

I think it was said somewhere that Honda didn't listen to what we asked for. Well;

- many of us tired of lubing chain - DRIVESHAFT
- many of us wanted more torque - 1200cc
- many wanted new bike to have OEM sidebags - check
- many wanted kinder, gentler ergos - check (see photo)
- some wanted clutchless shifting - check
- most wanted better fuel economy - check
- some wanted improved wind protection - TBD but that front end looks pretty substantial
- some wanted even better linked brakes - TBD if the brake by wire is available
- all wanted to keep V4 - check
- most want bike no heavier than 6th gen - TBD
- pretty well everyone wanted an all-rounder, not a 'focussed' sportbike - check

I could go on, but you get the point, Honda DOES listen.

The One thing that I have not heard/read about is 'active suspension' ala BMW (which receives raves reviews for it's convenience and usefulness). Maybe they're saving that for the 8th gen...

BI

[DDO-VFR]

motorhead1977, on Sep 20 2009, 08:42 AM, said:

Looks way too much like the BMW K1300 S.

Can't really agree with you there, but looks are one thing, handling another.

I hope it DOESN'T handle like the K series, those things have a seriously long wheel-base. I demo rode two versions of the K bikes and when I rode home on my 6th gen it flicked around like a 400lb CBR compared to the K1200S.

BI

[Kel]

I'd say that it looks just Ok. Reminds me of a Cylon(Battlestar Galactica). I think it's time to retire the VFR name anyway. It's a shame that thing is tied to what used to win superbike races with Rainey and Shobert on board. Remember when the CBX got saddlebags, sad day indeed. Looks like it will make some here very happy though.

[Buttonhook]

motorhead1977, on Sep 20 2009, 08:42 AM, said:

Looks way too much like the BMW K1300 S.

you know in sport rider this month that bmw put the smack down on the high and mighty busa

[Beck]

Kel, on Sep 20 2009, 03:00 PM, said:

I'd say that it looks just Ok. Reminds me of a Cylon(Battlestar Galactica). I think it's time to retire the VFR name anyway. It's a shame that thing is tied to what used to win superbike races with Rainey and Shobert on board. Remember when the CBX got saddlebags, sad day indeed. Looks like it will make some here very happy though.

Agree,
Seems like they took the sport out of the VFR so much that it's now really the new ST1100/1300. A V4 engine is not all that made up a VFR and saddlebags and touring capabilities were never really a requirement for what I think were aa good part of VFR owners that includes me. The new Aprilia and the new BMW sportbike are really looking good to me now!
Was chain drive ever a probelm to most of us?? Did we really need a much bigger/taller faring?? Modular engine?? BMWesque styling?? 1200ccs??
Someone just go and get a BMW GT to get most of this. Why water down the VFR DNA so much and leave half the VFR following dissapointed??
I guess it's a moot point now, it's happening..........

Beck
95 VFR

This post has been edited by Beck: 20 September 2009 - 04:19 PM

[The Phantom]

motorhead1977, on Sep 20 2009, 11:12 PM, said:

Actually I think the BMW looks a lot sportier than the VFR!

But I'm with Rice, I'll wait and see how it grabs me in the showroom before I decide what I think of its looks. I remember when the slab-sided 900SS Ducati was replaced by the curvy one - when I saw photos I thought "dingo!" (that's Aussie for 'a bit of a dog to look at') but when I saw one in the metal I was quite taken by it.

[Kestrel]

For what it is worth, the camera is definitely adding a few pounds to it. Compare that to the desert photos and I believe the red colors make it look a quite a bit more porkly.

Remember this photograph?



When you compare the two after that... It really is the angles that many it look *much* larger.

Also, Honda stated the following..

Quote

First V4s just the 'tip of the iceberg'
The first V4s - the sports-tourer and Pan European/Blackbird-replacement scooped by MCN - are 'just the tip of the iceberg' according to project engineers. Hinting that V4 power will be at the heart of a generation of machines from Honda, MCN's Japanese source revealed the firm is working on a dynasty to overshadow even that of the iconic Fireblade.

"When we first launched the Fireblade in 1992 we had a plan that stretched as far into the future as the 954cc version of 2002. It's the same with the V4s. There are many branches to the family."

Taken from http://www.motorcycl...s-a-triple-too/

Straight from the engineers... If that's the case, then I have the feeling we're going to see an entirely new generation of V4 based bikes from Honda. Perhaps we really will get that V4 600cc supersport many of us have been lusting after for so long. I'd line up in an instant and buy one. It's been what I've been waiting for after so many years, too.

[jasonsmith]

I think I like it but gotta admit I'm scared of all that's going on in it...

[Buttonhook]

Kestrel, on Sep 20 2009, 11:40 AM, said:

For what it is worth, the camera is definitely adding a few pounds to it. Compare that to the desert photos and I believe the red colors make it look a quite a bit more porkly.

Remember this photograph?



When you compare the two after that... It really is the angles that many it look *much* larger.

Also, Honda stated the following..

Quote

First V4s just the 'tip of the iceberg'
The first V4s - the sports-tourer and Pan European/Blackbird-replacement scooped by MCN - are 'just the tip of the iceberg' according to project engineers. Hinting that V4 power will be at the heart of a generation of machines from Honda, MCN's Japanese source revealed the firm is working on a dynasty to overshadow even that of the iconic Fireblade.

"When we first launched the Fireblade in 1992 we had a plan that stretched as far into the future as the 954cc version of 2002. It's the same with the V4s. There are many branches to the family."

Taken from http://www.motorcycl...s-a-triple-too/

Straight from the engineers... If that's the case, then I have the feeling we're going to see an entirely new generation of V4 based bikes from Honda. Perhaps we really will get that V4 600cc supersport many of us have been lusting after for so long. I'd line up in an instant and buy one. It's been what I've been waiting for after so many years, too.

+ it had the bags on it too...that also makes in look bigger

[adam79]

I wonder how deep a buyers pockets have to be to buy this high tech bike? Im guessing it will be in the same price range as the Yamaha FJR.

[jeremy556]

DDO-VFR, on Sep 20 2009, 09:27 AM, said:

BEAUTY!

I think it was said somewhere that Honda didn't listen to what we asked for. Well;

- many of us tired of lubing chain - DRIVESHAFT
- many of us wanted more torque - 1200cc
- many wanted new bike to have OEM sidebags - check
- many wanted kinder, gentler ergos - check (see photo)
- some wanted clutchless shifting - check
- most wanted better fuel economy - check
- some wanted improved wind protection - TBD but that front end looks pretty substantial
- some wanted even better linked brakes - TBD if the brake by wire is available
- all wanted to keep V4 - check
- most want bike no heavier than 6th gen - TBD
- pretty well everyone wanted an all-rounder, not a 'focussed' sportbike - check

I could go on, but you get the point, Honda DOES listen.

The One thing that I have not heard/read about is 'active suspension' ala BMW (which receives raves reviews for it's convenience and usefulness). Maybe they're saving that for the 8th gen...

BI

The ST1300 has been around for a long time...

[RE-Agent]

I think the K looks sportier also. If Honda really was listening they would give us a VFR RR and a VFR ST.

[dutchinterceptor]

I'm sure it'll be a great bike but it doesn't exactly thrill me with its looks. I suspect it will be in competition with the FJR and C14 perhaps? Hope they don't release it in the UK and then make everyone in the US get on a waiting list like Yamaha did with the FJR.

[Dutchy]

I will reserve judgement till I saw one in the flesh and test rode one.....

[Kestrel]

I don't see this bike competing with EITHER the FJR nor the Connie 14. Those bikes are MUCH, MUCH larger than the VFR. Compare the FJR1300 side profile shot to the VFR, and it is quite easy to see that the viffer is a much smaller motorcycle.



The VFR is probably going to stay close to the size it is right now. If they can keep the weight the *same* or less as the previous generation VFR, it is going to absolutely rock as an all around very sport oriented touring bike, a la gentleman's express.

[gstanfield]

Oh well, I'll be keeping my 6th gen for now, then trading later on something else, but not this new thing. If I wanted shaft drive, factory bags, etc, etc I would have kept my ST1300 or went with a BMW. What I have been wanting and still want is a capable sport bike made for an adult that likes to ride longer and more comfy than a CBR allows. The VFR does that great, although it is down in the power department from what I personally would like. Long legs and years in the dirt (broekn parts) mean I cannot physically ride a CBR for more than a half hour at a time.

Oh well, maybe someday somewhere I can test ride one and then be able to say for sure, but at this point it does not interest me.

Just my thoughts,
George

[mznyc]

Ya looks like a Beemer,

K1200
too classy for a VFR.My 95 750 had that Italian/NR look that just hasn't been able to be re-captured since


NR750

This post has been edited by mznyc: 20 September 2009 - 02:27 PM

[Rice]

Kestrel, on Sep 20 2009, 02:34 PM, said:

I don't see this bike competing with EITHER the FJR nor the Connie 14. Those bikes are MUCH, MUCH larger than the VFR. Compare the FJR1300 side profile shot to the VFR, and it is quite easy to see that the viffer is a much smaller motorcycle.



The VFR is probably going to stay close to the size it is right now. If they can keep the weight the *same* or less as the previous generation VFR, it is going to absolutely rock as an all around very sport oriented touring bike, a la gentleman's express.

I hope you're right.
Everything that I have seen so far seems to support what you've said.
If true, It would be exactly what I would want in a bike.
Now, about the price... That's the big question for me.
Let's hope H finds a way to keep it reasonable (read under 12K).

[HighSpeedWobble]

UGLY!

[rescue13]

[/quote]
It does look bigger than the 6th gen in the pictures. But camera is notorious for adding pounds.
No matter. A bigger bike will probably be a better fit for my new, more sedate riding style.
[/quote]

Any bike looks big with Pedrosa on it!
I'll hold my judgment till I see it in person. I thought the 6th Gen was ugly when it came out but like it now!

[dendron]

SEBSPEED, on Sep 20 2009, 08:55 AM, said:

rc36Honda, on Sep 20 2009, 08:06 AM, said:

REPOST!!

You sure about that?

Mmm, wineberry! I certainly hope they spin the color wheel for the introduction.