[motogpfan]

Since several members have logged large numbers on this tire,what can one expect on the life of the tire.I get about 4K out of the PP I would think that 6K from the road two what one should expect?
As of today the difference in price between the above is $30 so does it make sense?

Thanks,
Mike

[Ryanme17]

You should be able to find PR2's online for less than the cost of Pilot Powers.

[motogpfan]

Ryanme17, on Jun 18 2009, 04:10 PM, said:

You should be able to find PR2's online for less than the cost of Pilot Powers.

The best price of the PP=$135
" " " " road2=$169

If anyone knows of a less expensive price let me know.

[CrazyInNYC]

motogpfan, on Jun 18 2009, 04:29 PM, said:

Ryanme17, on Jun 18 2009, 04:10 PM, said:

You should be able to find PR2's online for less than the cost of Pilot Powers.

The best price of the PP=$135
" " " " road2=$169

If anyone knows of a less expensive price let me know.

Based on your #s, your looking at a 25% cost increase, so a simple miles/dollar analysis would expect a 25% mileage increase to break even. So 5k would be your break even point. This is of course an oversimplification.

Using your cost #s and estimated mileage (4k/135, 6k/169) your looking at ~ 29.63 miles per dollar for the PP and ~ 35.50 miles per dollar for the PR2...

[Monk]

$166.99 near the bottom of the page for a 180/55 PR2

http://www.denniskirk.com/jsp/tpl/cmn/prod...amp;brandId=482

[Ryanme17]

motogpfan, on Jun 18 2009, 04:29 PM, said:

Ryanme17, on Jun 18 2009, 04:10 PM, said:

You should be able to find PR2's online for less than the cost of Pilot Powers.

The best price of the PP=$135
" " " " road2=$169

If anyone knows of a less expensive price let me know.

Oh, I guess I thought you wanted PP2's, the PP's are slightly less expensive.
Motorcycle superstore has a pair for $306 shipped.

[Beaver]

Ryanme17, on Jun 19 2009, 08:24 AM, said:

motogpfan, on Jun 18 2009, 04:29 PM, said:

Ryanme17, on Jun 18 2009, 04:10 PM, said:

You should be able to find PR2's online for less than the cost of Pilot Powers.

The best price of the PP=$135
" " " " road2=$169

If anyone knows of a less expensive price let me know.

Oh, I guess I thought you wanted PP2's, the PP's are slightly less expensive.
Motorcycle superstore has a pair for $306 shipped.

I wouldn't buy anything else.. don't get me wrong, PR2's (set) are AU$500, or US$400 from the dealership in Aus

[Ryanme17]

Beaver, on Jun 18 2009, 05:33 PM, said:

I wouldn't buy anything else.. don't get me wrong, PR2's (set) are AU$500, or US$400 from the dealership in Aus

Both are excellent tires, you can't go wrong either way. You'll just get a few more miles out of the PR2's, How many more depends on too many factors to say for sure, but it's up to you.

[VFR99]

I have the PR2 on both the speed triple and the vfr...but have only gone through one on the speed triple. Daily commute, but only < 10 miles a day and weekend duty....around 7k on the rear (IIRC, I'm not home to check). I use a regular PP on the fronts, in case you were going to ask

[HispanicSlammer]

Just considering my case I would get near 3500 miles for a Pilot Power, I recently took a Road 2 to Las Vegas and back 2500 then to North Carolina and back 3553 miles and a few rides in between thats 6k miles so thats a 72% increase in miles with near the same performance in terms of grip in the turns.

[BaileyRock]

motogpfan, on Jun 18 2009, 03:06 PM, said:

Since several members have logged large numbers on this tire,what can one expect on the life of the tire.I get about 4K out of the PP I would think that 6K from the road two what one should expect?
As of today the difference in price between the above is $30 so does it make sense?

Thanks,
Mike

YES it's worth it!
I avg. 2200 miles from a PP rear and 3200 miles from a P Road 2 rear, that's almost a 50% increase in tire life for only $30, it's a no brianer!!!
Do it!!!
On the street the Road 2 grips every bit as good as a Power and last longer, what else do you need to know!
I would guess you'll see 5500-6500 from a road 2 rear based on your PP life.

[spud786]

motogpfan, on Jun 18 2009, 03:06 PM, said:

Since several members have logged large numbers on this tire,what can one expect on the life of the tire.I get about 4K out of the PP I would think that 6K from the road two what one should expect?
As of today the difference in price between the above is $30 so does it make sense?

Thanks,
Mike

4k on a ppower rear? figure about 13,000 mile on road 2


Personally since you get good life on your tires, the Bt21 rear to me is like a Ppower rear that wears well, better than road 2 rear in the rain IMO

Only reason I run the road 2 is the life and its still has goo performance


BUt your right , some shops are charging big bucks for these tires and it become not worth the money.

I got the Road 2 rear I have to be installed for $168 , but some shops are wanting $208 for a rear, thats getting alittle nuts

This post has been edited by spud786: 18 June 2009 - 05:32 PM

[BaileyRock]

Ryanme17, on Jun 18 2009, 04:43 PM, said:

Beaver, on Jun 18 2009, 05:33 PM, said:

I wouldn't buy anything else.. don't get me wrong, PR2's (set) are AU$500, or US$400 from the dealership in Aus

Both are excellent tires, you can't go wrong either way. You'll just get a few more miles out of the PR2's, How many more depends on too many factors to say for sure, but it's up to you.

IMO there is absolutely No reason not to buy a Pilot Road 2 rear vs a PP, you give up Nothing grip wise and gain a considerable amount of tire life and improved wet grip. PP2ct are even a bigger waste of money.
I run a PP front w/Pilot Road 2 rear, excellent combo!
For the track a PP2ct front and PP rear is your best combo available!

[adamf18]

Are they worth it, HELL yea! try
LINKEE

[DDO-VFR]

As was said, everyone's mileage will be different, based on how / where you ride. I would also throw in the 'when do you change it' variable as in - the cord is showing versus the wear bars are almost touching.

Personally I find that when the tread depth is level to the wear bars all the brands that I have tried (Dunlop, ugh..., Michelin, Bridgestone, Metzler) seem to be squirrely in the rain when throttling out of a curve, so I often change up before I've squeezed every last kilometre out of them. That being said, I got 14,000km out of a Pilot Road (gave up after the second flat) and 13,000 out of a Pilot Road 2 (had some life left but I was pining for some fresh rubber).

Also, I definitely preferred the PR2s over the Roads. I can't figure out why they even still sell the Roads (or rather why anyone would buy them)...unless it's an OEM looking to save a few pennies on the factory build.

BI

[motogpfan]

A big thanks to all,I'll be going with the road 2 since several of you hit the 6K mark.I have the PP2ct on the rear now and like I said it has 4K on it.Time to order the PPR2.

Thanks,
Mike

[Ryanme17]

My previous PR2 was at near 4,000 miles when I totalled the bike, and you could barely tell it had been ridden, I probably would've gotten 10,000+ miles from it. Like BR said, you're getting pretty similar traction, and more miles for only a few bucks more.

[Trinith]

FWIW - I just changed out my rear PR2. 14,000 and change on the rear, about 4k on the front PR2 so far and it still looks brand new. 60 mile round trip commute to work daily (with a mile or two of fun riding in there for grins) with a fair number of trips across incredibly twisty roads and a few thousand interstate miles. To be honest I probably should have changed it at 11-12k, but it only lost grip in the wet, and even then it wasn't too bad. Aside from potential future track days...I don't think I'll be switching tires anytime soon. Not till people start getting even better mileage on something else.

[rad]

PRII; my new tire of choice.

I love how they handle, wet, dry or cold. Mileage; 7,000 and change on my set and the rear still looks good.

However, I'm no fool, I’m fairly certain tire manufactures use butter instead of rubber on the final 1/3 of a tire for all mine go from "hey, she is look'n good", to “Holy shit, I better get a new rear tire fast", in very short order.

[YoshiHNS]

I'm hoping I didn't make a mistake with buying the Rossos over the PR2s. Can't go wrong with $200 a set, and I've read people getting 6k out of em. I'll probably get them for the 5th gen. Just a little iffy on getting sticky tires with all the commuting I usually do.

[turtlecreek]

on the cost analysis, everyone forgets one other part....the tire change cost per mile. $20-50/change can increase the cost per mile significantly to the favor of the pr2..i buy pr2 anytime i cant get the $200/pair diablo specials.

[spud786]

YoshiHNS, on Jun 18 2009, 07:36 PM, said:

I'm hoping I didn't make a mistake with buying the Rossos over the PR2s. Can't go wrong with $200 a set, and I've read people getting 6k out of em. I'll probably get them for the 5th gen. Just a little iffy on getting sticky tires with all the commuting I usually do.

Your worrying over something that doesnt exist, the road 2 is the best commute tire ever made

[bluespecv03]

Got about 4k on my PR2 rear now, and it looks like it did when it was brand new pretty much. 2500 mile round trip to Deal's Gap and back, with 2 rain filled days to Birmingham AL. Awesome dry and wet tire. The way it is wearing now, I should easily get 10k out of it. Go for the PR2, you wont regret it.

[pfbmgd]

I can`t comment about the mileage .But the first 300k and I love the PR2s .

[jeremy556]

Yes.

[mznyc]

turtlecreek, on Jun 18 2009, 09:06 PM, said:

on the cost analysis, everyone forgets one other part....the tire change cost per mile. $20-50/change can increase the cost per mile significantly to the favor of the pr2..i buy pr2 anytime i cant get the $200/pair diablo specials.

Good point TC.Locally I would pay $35 per tire for a change + tax and the price of the tire from the shop (about a $100 more per set than buying online).
Cured that by buying a Harbor Freight ,Mojo Blocks,and NoMar bar,about $200 all together,already paid for itself .
Weird thing as I was doing a brake check/ chain service yesterday it seems like my center tread on the rear is wearing faster than I would have hoped.About 1500 mostly back roads ,twisty stuff.Check pressures before every ride,ride at about 75-80% pace.Hmm,my guess is I'd get another 1500 out of it,thought I would get more than 3k total,..

[BaileyRock]

YoshiHNS, on Jun 18 2009, 07:36 PM, said:

I'm hoping I didn't make a mistake with buying the Rossos over the PR2s. Can't go wrong with $200 a set, and I've read people getting 6k out of em. I'll probably get them for the 5th gen. Just a little iffy on getting sticky tires with all the commuting I usually do.

No I don't think so, Pirelli's were my fav tire before the PP, in fact I preferred the Diablo slightly over the PP but the Diablo just wore out to fast.
I would try the Rossos for $200 a set for sure, I'm sure they are an excellent tire!

[jeremy556]

Baileyrock, on Jun 19 2009, 10:31 AM, said:

YoshiHNS, on Jun 18 2009, 07:36 PM, said:

I'm hoping I didn't make a mistake with buying the Rossos over the PR2s. Can't go wrong with $200 a set, and I've read people getting 6k out of em. I'll probably get them for the 5th gen. Just a little iffy on getting sticky tires with all the commuting I usually do.

No I don't think so, Pirelli's were my fav tire before the PP, in fact I preferred the Diablo slightly over the PP but the Diablo just wore out to fast.
I would try the Rossos for $200 a set for sure, I'm sure they are an excellent tire!

+1. Kevin (KWR29485739453745) ran some of these for a while and said they were a good tire, and $200 a set is a great price.

Related note, I was getting my rear Road2 to spin up pretty consistently on the tighter sections on 28 between Franklin and the 4 lane part yesterday running 42psi cold. I stopped to check them out and they were not overheated, as I was suspecting. I lowered the pressure from a hot 46psi to 41psi and had no issue after that.

[Monk]

I got 4500m on my rear stock dunlop's(wear marker center)....... now I'm running pilot roads (same roads, etc.) and have 3500m on these tyres ( hasn't even started flatening out in the centre much,yet).... I've been running PR's for years on different bikes and usaully get in the 8000m mark..... I've got a new set of PR2's waitting to be used next..... I got them because of all the positive comments from you guy's...... So far I'm just glad to see that I'll get a lot better milage with my PR'S than the stock tyre.........

[Ryanme17]

jeremy556, on Jun 19 2009, 11:08 AM, said:

Related note, I was getting my rear Road2 to spin up pretty consistently on the tighter sections on 28 between Franklin and the 4 lane part yesterday running 42psi cold. I stopped to check them out and they were not overheated, as I was suspecting. I lowered the pressure from a hot 46psi to 41psi and had no issue after that.

Why were you running twisties at 42 psi? I've found the Pilot Road 2's to be a great tire, but a little sensitive to heat and overpressurization, but any tire wouldn't have as much grip above 40 psi.