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Tire Repair Kit Opinions
#2
Posted 26 July 2008 - 08:28 AM
i_needit, on Jul 26 2008, 05:59 AM, said:
I'm wondering what is the best tire repair kit. I'm looking at the Stop & Go, modle 1075 Standard Model - Tire Plugger & slime pump, any opinions welcome.
Thanks
Thanks
The exact tools I now carry with me. All of my bikes are wired to work the pump with a simple plug-in............

"I LEARNED A LONG TIME AGO, BEST WAY TO REALIZE THE DANGER OF YOUR PACE IS WHEN IT GOES FROM THAT SPEED TO ZERO REALLY ABRUPTLY.....MIGHTA' BEEN FASTER THAN I THOUGHT"..........SKUUTER
"IF YOU RIDE A MOTORCYCLE, I REALLY LIKE YOU.....DON'T MAKE A LIAR OUT OF ME"...........SKUUTER
#3
Posted 26 July 2008 - 08:56 AM
skuuter trash, on Jul 26 2008, 08:28 AM, said:
i_needit, on Jul 26 2008, 05:59 AM, said:
I'm wondering what is the best tire repair kit. I'm looking at the Stop & Go, modle 1075 Standard Model - Tire Plugger & slime pump, any opinions welcome.
Thanks
Thanks
The exact tools I now carry with me. All of my bikes are wired to work the pump with a simple plug-in............
same for me!
after watch skuuter and his other brother bent work on his tire while dueling banjos played in the back ground, i ran out and bought the slime and stop & go to make sure i wasn't standing still on the mountains for any length of time in the future...
I learned a long time ago, best way to realize the danger of your pace is when it goes from that speed to zero really abruptly.......mighta' been faster than I thought......Skuuter 
"Courage is almost a contradiction in terms. It means a strong desire to live taking the form of a readiness to die. 'He that will lose his life, the same shall save it' is not a piece of mysticism for saints and heroes. You must seek life in a spirit of furious indifference to it; you must desire life like water and yet drink death like wine." GK Chesterton
MODS:Givi Windscreen Factory Windscreen due to Dragon Bite, Sargent Seat, Headlight Modulator, Heli Bars, Padded Grips, PCIII USB, 30 Amp Fuse Upgrade, Fender Eliminator, Evap Canister Removed, PAIR Valve Removed, Flapper Mod, De-Snorkled, O2 Sensor Removed/Plugged, BLS Footpeg Mod, .95 Racetech Springs and Ohlin Valves, F4 Shock Rebuilt/Resprung to 950lb for Fat Arse, '99 Catless Headers, 15T Front Sprocket, Vecky5 Gutted Exhaust, Riv's Hugger, 12v meter, VFRharness w/ relay block, Speedohealer
"Courage is almost a contradiction in terms. It means a strong desire to live taking the form of a readiness to die. 'He that will lose his life, the same shall save it' is not a piece of mysticism for saints and heroes. You must seek life in a spirit of furious indifference to it; you must desire life like water and yet drink death like wine." GK Chesterton
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#4
Posted 26 July 2008 - 09:33 AM
turtlecreek, on Jul 26 2008, 08:56 AM, said:
skuuter trash, on Jul 26 2008, 08:28 AM, said:
i_needit, on Jul 26 2008, 05:59 AM, said:
I'm wondering what is the best tire repair kit. I'm looking at the Stop & Go, modle 1075 Standard Model - Tire Plugger & slime pump, any opinions welcome.
Thanks
Thanks
The exact tools I now carry with me. All of my bikes are wired to work the pump with a simple plug-in............
same for me!
after watch skuuter and his other brother bent work on his tire while dueling banjos played in the back ground, i ran out and bought the slime and stop & go to make sure i wasn't standing still on the mountains for any length of time in the future...
Good thinking.......always better to get gone before the "squeal like a pig" part starts................

"I LEARNED A LONG TIME AGO, BEST WAY TO REALIZE THE DANGER OF YOUR PACE IS WHEN IT GOES FROM THAT SPEED TO ZERO REALLY ABRUPTLY.....MIGHTA' BEEN FASTER THAN I THOUGHT"..........SKUUTER
"IF YOU RIDE A MOTORCYCLE, I REALLY LIKE YOU.....DON'T MAKE A LIAR OUT OF ME"...........SKUUTER
#5
Posted 26 July 2008 - 10:41 AM
Same here.......Slime pump and Stop & Go plug kit. Works pretty well.
2003 Honda VFR in silver, Staintunes, Sargent seat, Helibars, Power Commander USB III, Penske rear shock, Traxxion front forks, Ventura luggage system, Pazzo levers, Speedohealer and a 45 tooth rear sprocket.
2007 CBR 600RR blue and silver, R&G frame sliders, Galfer brake lines, Puig tinted screen, Pazzo levers.....amazing machine for street and track use.
Track days are like heroin.......so addictive!!!
2007 CBR 600RR blue and silver, R&G frame sliders, Galfer brake lines, Puig tinted screen, Pazzo levers.....amazing machine for street and track use.
Track days are like heroin.......so addictive!!!
#6
Posted 26 July 2008 - 10:45 AM
johnmark101, on Jul 26 2008, 11:41 AM, said:
Same here.......Slime pump and Stop & Go plug kit. Works pretty well.
Another vote - I have the same setup. Luckily I haven't used the plug kit yet, but I have used the pump to bump my tire pressure on the road.
Sebastian - **Yankee Railer**
1983 VF750F 2,997 original miles, currently undergoing full hot-rod restoration, K&N, Accel coils & wires, Megacycle Stage 1 cams, jetted, Works shock, CBR F2 wheels, VF1000R forks, RaceTech Gold Valve Emulators, Sonic 1.0 springs, Chevy S-10 'clear' headlight, fender chop, Maier dark smoke screen, Vance and Hines full 2-2 system, CBR F3 clip ons, much more in the works!
1986 VFR700F streetfighter 900RR forks w/ Racetech .90's, LSL top triple w/ dirtbike bars, CBR F3 front wheel, 900RR rear wheel, Fox Twin Clicker, K&N, jetted, Micron 4-2-1, Duc 1098 tail, lots of one-off stuff coming
198x VF500F in pieces... parts for sale! PM for info!
2001 CBR600F4i 10,700mi, FOR SALE!!
2005 VFR800 Sargent seat, NEP throttle lock, Symtec heated grips, Powerlet, DIY fender eliminator, oem hard bags, modded passenger pegs, Garmin Nuvi 750, Ohlins 46DRS, .90 RaceTech fork springs, Staintunes, Rivcyko double secret probation CF hugger, CF Bug Buster, UNI filter mod, PC3 USB w/ Cozye's map, coming soon - RaceTech Gold Valves, catless headers, Turbo City FPR &...
***Bailey-san sez, zip-tie a rim protector to your HF bar on your HF changer to keep from scratcha rim***

1983 VF750F 2,997 original miles, currently undergoing full hot-rod restoration, K&N, Accel coils & wires, Megacycle Stage 1 cams, jetted, Works shock, CBR F2 wheels, VF1000R forks, RaceTech Gold Valve Emulators, Sonic 1.0 springs, Chevy S-10 'clear' headlight, fender chop, Maier dark smoke screen, Vance and Hines full 2-2 system, CBR F3 clip ons, much more in the works!
1986 VFR700F streetfighter 900RR forks w/ Racetech .90's, LSL top triple w/ dirtbike bars, CBR F3 front wheel, 900RR rear wheel, Fox Twin Clicker, K&N, jetted, Micron 4-2-1, Duc 1098 tail, lots of one-off stuff coming
198x VF500F in pieces... parts for sale! PM for info!
2001 CBR600F4i 10,700mi, FOR SALE!!
2005 VFR800 Sargent seat, NEP throttle lock, Symtec heated grips, Powerlet, DIY fender eliminator, oem hard bags, modded passenger pegs, Garmin Nuvi 750, Ohlins 46DRS, .90 RaceTech fork springs, Staintunes, Rivcyko double secret probation CF hugger, CF Bug Buster, UNI filter mod, PC3 USB w/ Cozye's map, coming soon - RaceTech Gold Valves, catless headers, Turbo City FPR &...
***Bailey-san sez, zip-tie a rim protector to your HF bar on your HF changer to keep from scratcha rim***

#7
Posted 26 July 2008 - 12:17 PM
Minor tire repair is limited to an area of three quarters of the
normal section width. The maximum diameter of penetration damage
and/or cracking at the base of the injury should be no greater than
3mm. The repair patches must not overlap. If a tire is deemed suitable for
repair (by a professional) then follow the instructions provided by the
manufacturer of the repair material.
For permanent repair,it is only recommended that small punctures
restricted to the tread area be repaired, using a rope type plug. The
current condition of a tire is important in determining whether a tire
is suitable for repair. Some damage limits include: if the tire has
reached its minimum tread depth as indicated by the TWI (tire wear
indicator); ply separation, separation of inner liner and or cutting
of ply cords by penetrating object; brittle or cracked rubber caused
by exhaust heat; broken or bent bead wire, damaged bead zone; damage
caused by under-inflation; softening or swelling of rubber due to oil
or chemical attack; punctures too close together; damage or previous
repair of a puncture outside of area specified for suitable repair.

My screwed Rennsport... boo hoo

My glugged Rennsport that covered 2K miles and not in moderation either...
keep it a secret but it's seen over a buck 40 more than once...

Inside the Rennsport for proof that the rope type plugs stay intact whereas
my mushroom tyre plug started to come unstuck

I'm using the BMW tire repair kit with the rope type plugs

Nylon Rope type plugs found at any auto parts store...

I don't recommend the mushroom type plugs...

What the Manufactures say about tire repairs:
Metzeler quote: "According to the specific regulations of different
country governments, a general recommendation regarding tyre repair
cannot be given. For your country, please refer to your distributor.
In case a repair is permitted, METZELER is only recommending the
repair of small punctures restricted to the tread area using a
mushroom head type plug. The repair of a punctured tubeless tyre by
means of fitting a tube is not permitted" .
Dunlop quote: "Any puncture or injury to a tire's tread area obviously
affects performance and safety. Proper repair is critical. The
puncture must be repaired on both the inside and the outside of the
tire. Because all parts of a tire are engineered to function as a
single unit, any repair must take that into consideration. Only
small, straight-through 3/16" diameter or less punctures in the tread
area may be repairable, if no secondary damage has occurred."
NOTE: A tire repair can be properly made only if the tire is removed
from the rim; a thorough internal inspection is carried out; and the
repair is made from the inside out. A repair must fill and seal the
injury, i.e. vulcanized plug and patch. Only specially trained
Technicians are qualified to repair a tire. Do not attempt to repair
it yourself.
Dunlop Safety Advisory, Speed Rated Tires: Repaired tires must not be
used in excess of posted speed limits, in race or other competition.
Speed ratings are not valid for repaired, re-treaded, under-inflated
or overloaded, excessively worn, damaged or altered tires. "
Bridgestone quote: Riding on an improperly repaired tire is dangerous.
An improper repair can cause further damage to the tire. It may
suddenly fail, causing serious personal injury or death. To be safe,
go to your local dealer for proper tire repairs.
Before having a tire repaired, tell your local dealer if you have used
an aerosol banned! to inflate/ seal the tire. Aerosol fixers could
contain a highly volatile gas. Always remove the valve core outdoors,
away from sources of excessive heat, flame, or sparks and completely
deflate the tire before removing it from the rim for repair.
* Never repair a tire with less than 1/32nd inch (0.8 millimeters)
tread remaining. At this tread depth, the tire is worn out and must be
replaced. * Never repair a tire with a puncture larger than 1/4 inch
(6.4 millimeters) in diameter. Such tires cannot be properly repaired
and must be replaced. * Repairs of all tires (radial and non-radial)
must be of the plug and inside patch type. Using plugs alone on any
type of tire is not a safe repair. * Never repair a tire with a
puncture or other damage outside the tread area. Such tires cannot be
properly repaired and must be replaced. * Any tire repair done without
removing the tire from the rim is improper. * Tubes, like tires,
should be repaired only by a qualified tire service person. * Never
use a tube as a substitute for a proper repair.
A tire's speed rating is void if the tire is repaired, retreaded,
damaged or abused, or otherwise altered from its original condition.
Thereafter, it should be treated as a non-speed-rated tire.
Michelin quote: In case of a flat, take the tire to your Michelin®
motorcycle tire dealer. Only a professional tire technician has the
expertise to properly inspect a tire for damage and determine its
repairability.
normal section width. The maximum diameter of penetration damage
and/or cracking at the base of the injury should be no greater than
3mm. The repair patches must not overlap. If a tire is deemed suitable for
repair (by a professional) then follow the instructions provided by the
manufacturer of the repair material.
For permanent repair,it is only recommended that small punctures
restricted to the tread area be repaired, using a rope type plug. The
current condition of a tire is important in determining whether a tire
is suitable for repair. Some damage limits include: if the tire has
reached its minimum tread depth as indicated by the TWI (tire wear
indicator); ply separation, separation of inner liner and or cutting
of ply cords by penetrating object; brittle or cracked rubber caused
by exhaust heat; broken or bent bead wire, damaged bead zone; damage
caused by under-inflation; softening or swelling of rubber due to oil
or chemical attack; punctures too close together; damage or previous
repair of a puncture outside of area specified for suitable repair.

My screwed Rennsport... boo hoo

My glugged Rennsport that covered 2K miles and not in moderation either...
keep it a secret but it's seen over a buck 40 more than once...

Inside the Rennsport for proof that the rope type plugs stay intact whereas
my mushroom tyre plug started to come unstuck

I'm using the BMW tire repair kit with the rope type plugs

Nylon Rope type plugs found at any auto parts store...

I don't recommend the mushroom type plugs...

What the Manufactures say about tire repairs:
Metzeler quote: "According to the specific regulations of different
country governments, a general recommendation regarding tyre repair
cannot be given. For your country, please refer to your distributor.
In case a repair is permitted, METZELER is only recommending the
repair of small punctures restricted to the tread area using a
mushroom head type plug. The repair of a punctured tubeless tyre by
means of fitting a tube is not permitted" .
Dunlop quote: "Any puncture or injury to a tire's tread area obviously
affects performance and safety. Proper repair is critical. The
puncture must be repaired on both the inside and the outside of the
tire. Because all parts of a tire are engineered to function as a
single unit, any repair must take that into consideration. Only
small, straight-through 3/16" diameter or less punctures in the tread
area may be repairable, if no secondary damage has occurred."
NOTE: A tire repair can be properly made only if the tire is removed
from the rim; a thorough internal inspection is carried out; and the
repair is made from the inside out. A repair must fill and seal the
injury, i.e. vulcanized plug and patch. Only specially trained
Technicians are qualified to repair a tire. Do not attempt to repair
it yourself.
Dunlop Safety Advisory, Speed Rated Tires: Repaired tires must not be
used in excess of posted speed limits, in race or other competition.
Speed ratings are not valid for repaired, re-treaded, under-inflated
or overloaded, excessively worn, damaged or altered tires. "
Bridgestone quote: Riding on an improperly repaired tire is dangerous.
An improper repair can cause further damage to the tire. It may
suddenly fail, causing serious personal injury or death. To be safe,
go to your local dealer for proper tire repairs.
Before having a tire repaired, tell your local dealer if you have used
an aerosol banned! to inflate/ seal the tire. Aerosol fixers could
contain a highly volatile gas. Always remove the valve core outdoors,
away from sources of excessive heat, flame, or sparks and completely
deflate the tire before removing it from the rim for repair.
* Never repair a tire with less than 1/32nd inch (0.8 millimeters)
tread remaining. At this tread depth, the tire is worn out and must be
replaced. * Never repair a tire with a puncture larger than 1/4 inch
(6.4 millimeters) in diameter. Such tires cannot be properly repaired
and must be replaced. * Repairs of all tires (radial and non-radial)
must be of the plug and inside patch type. Using plugs alone on any
type of tire is not a safe repair. * Never repair a tire with a
puncture or other damage outside the tread area. Such tires cannot be
properly repaired and must be replaced. * Any tire repair done without
removing the tire from the rim is improper. * Tubes, like tires,
should be repaired only by a qualified tire service person. * Never
use a tube as a substitute for a proper repair.
A tire's speed rating is void if the tire is repaired, retreaded,
damaged or abused, or otherwise altered from its original condition.
Thereafter, it should be treated as a non-speed-rated tire.
Michelin quote: In case of a flat, take the tire to your Michelin®
motorcycle tire dealer. Only a professional tire technician has the
expertise to properly inspect a tire for damage and determine its
repairability.
Larry L
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94 RC45 #2
90 RC30 #44
VFR PEG LOWERING BLOCKS
http://www.vfrdiscus...showtopic=44940
Have a wheelie NICE day...
Lean & Mean it in every corner of your life...
If it wasn't for us the fast lane would rust...
V4'S are music to the seat of my pants...
1952 De Havilland Chipmunk...
Yank and bank your brains loose...
http://members.ebay....aboutme/-xlax-/
http://home.comcast.net/~netters2/
http://www.fox302.co...g&user=netters2
http://www.flickr.co...s/10503451@N07/
Busy Little Shop Photo Gallery
#8
Posted 06 November 2008 - 07:55 PM
I use the Stop & Go pocket model #1000. I also use a motopump (basic kit).
pocket
motopump
I cut the end off the motopump and installed a male widder plug. I have a female plug permanently installed under the tank in front of the seat. The motopump is a bit slow (~5 seconds per psi), but stong enough to set the beads. I love the thing and I use it to top off my tires regularly.
The two of them together are tiny fit under the seat above the battery nicely.
motopump
I cut the end off the motopump and installed a male widder plug. I have a female plug permanently installed under the tank in front of the seat. The motopump is a bit slow (~5 seconds per psi), but stong enough to set the beads. I love the thing and I use it to top off my tires regularly.
The two of them together are tiny fit under the seat above the battery nicely.
"It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes short again and again; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, and spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best, knows in the end the triumph of great achievement; and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat." - The Rough Rider - T. Roosevelt (Panama, 1906)


Many states and provinces left. I should probably order another set of tires...


Many states and provinces left. I should probably order another set of tires...
#9
Posted 07 November 2008 - 03:29 AM
i_needit, on Jul 26 2008, 03:59 AM, said:
I'm wondering what is the best tire repair kit. I'm looking at the Stop & Go, modle 1075 Standard Model - Tire Plugger & slime pump, any opinions welcome.
Thanks
Thanks
Aerostich also sells a similar kit that I've used successfully on every new Pilot Power tire I've put on, the PP's seem to come with screw magnets.
http://www.aerostich...it-p-18432.html
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