Radar Detector Mount For A Valentine 1
#1
Posted 17 April 2008 - 09:33 AM
Thanks
If you always do what you always have done, you will always get what you have always gotten.
#2
Posted 17 April 2008 - 08:02 PM
foolio3256, on Apr 17 2008, 10:33 AM, said:
Thanks
I don't use it a whole lot, but have one of these magnetic mounts on my VFR for a V1. It is pretty impressive how well it holds the device.
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2001 Red VFR - Garmin Zumo 550, Autocom, Valentine One, Heli-bars, Corbin Beetlebags, Corbin Seat, Givi Trunk, Puig Double Bubble Windscreen, AK-20 Axxion Cartridge Kit, Wilbers Shock, Heated Grips, Sargent tank bra, Powerlet outlet, air horns, Datel Volt Meter, VFRness, Vista Cruise, K&N Air filter, PCIII, Micron Slip-on, Cat-less exhaust, 16 tooth front sprocket, Factory Pro Evo Shift STAR kit, Blue Sea fuse box, bar-end helmet locks, Silver wheels, black rotors, Radar's frame sliders, Speedohealer, and Pro-grip grips.
2006 GSXR600 - Track Bike
Previous bikes.......
1997 GSXR750, 1997 Red YZF600R, 1999 Black VTR Superhawk, 1993 White VFR750, 1995 ZX-6R, 1989 FZR600, 1996 GSXR1100, 1978 GL1000, 1975 Yamaha 650
#3
Posted 17 April 2008 - 08:20 PM
"If everything seems under control, your just not going fast enough" Mario Andretti
current bikes
02 VFR BLACK, 77,050 miles(no Valve check yet), SB-II exhaust , 15t, Penske w/20kg, AfterShocks forks w/.95 kg, V1, heated grips, Pilot Power front/ Road 2 rear, No surge or Vtec transition problems! Mobil 1 15w-50 or Shell Rotella T Syn., Buell pegs.
01 VFR (brother's) crashed
07 GSXR 750(SOLD!)
02 F4i Track Bike(GONE!)
93 Yamaha WR250(in a box)
04 VFR track pig project(fast & crashed)
#4
Posted 17 April 2008 - 09:39 PM
Here it is on my VFR:

And a similar model (different stem size) on my RC51. The black box mounted to the V1 is for my H.A.R.D heads-up display. http://www.legalspee...oducts.htm#HARD

#5
Posted 18 April 2008 - 07:24 AM
This keeps the V1 from getting wet in the rain, and makes it very easy to take the detector with me when I leave the bike (I just pick up the tank bag).
I generally wear ER6 earspeakers connected to the radar detector. The ER6's do a great job attenuating wind noise, and you know immediately when rader is detected (it's too easy to miss the display when you're busy riding).
Too many of the mounts that attach to triple clamp end up blocking your view of the instruments. Using the top of the tank bag places the radar detector out of the line of sight to dash.

#6
Posted 18 April 2008 - 07:55 AM
hlf, on Apr 18 2008, 07:24 AM, said:
I'm sure your tankbag set-up is nice, but I want to caution everyone that a radar detector should:
1) be able to peer above your instrument panel (so that it's looking down the road, not at a printed circuit board and electronical stuff that blocks radar)
2) be pointed just a very few degrees down, or at least perfectly level. If it's pointing up IN THE SLIGHTEST (like you see on so many car windshields, searching for airplane radar and satellites!!) the detector's ability to capture signals is severely compromised. If it's pointing just a few degrees down or dead level, it has a much better chance of capturing radar bounce from the pavement and/or picking up distant signals. If it's pointing up, it has much less chance of doing that. Remember that radar moves from point to point like a laser beam, with little scatter (unless there's cars in front of you). It's not "floating around out there" like smoke or the smell of roadkill. And for that matter the cop's laser guns are the same way, of course.
The detector has to be looking forward, straining it's electronic eye to spot those guys!!
As for rain protection you can put a plastic bag over it (you stop anywhere and get a small shopping bag) secure around the arm with tape or twist-tie/zip tie. or put it away in your tank/tail bag.
#7
Posted 19 April 2008 - 05:41 AM
Did you use a fuse tap and went to the fuse box?
#8
Posted 19 April 2008 - 08:14 AM
FrankoQ, on Apr 19 2008, 06:41 AM, said:
Did you use a fuse tap and went to the fuse box?
At a minimum, you need Valentine's Direct-Wire Power Adapter, Item 20305. (This comes with a new V1 in the box, in addition to the tacky cigarette lighter powering stuff.) The Adapter is necessary to get power from a 12V source on your bike to the RJ11 telephone cord that the V1 uses.
How you tap into an ignition-switched 12V source on you bike is kinda your decison. I prefer to go to the trouble of building-in an auxiliary fuse panel for all my electrical needs (heated grips, radar, shift light, tag lights, etc), which is discussed here in several how-to mods.
Here's the panel on my RC51. What you don't see is the solenoid that controls battery power to the fuses. The soleonid is activated by a tail light wire (because it comes on when the key is turned on). Or you can tap into some wire somewhere that is ignition-switched and connect the V1 adapter to that.

Then you have to consider how you're going to hear or see that V1. You can't do either with just the dector sitting there. You need a Marc Parnes LED bar, or a HARD heads-up display, which is what I use. marcparnes.com legalspeeding.com
#9
Posted 19 April 2008 - 08:16 AM
foolio3256, on Apr 17 2008, 09:33 AM, said:
Thanks
I have my V1 installed on the windscreen. Here's a picture of what it looked like on old my '99 (scroll down):
http://www.hal-pc.or...l_farkles1.html
This is the new model RD mount that I currently have on my 2000:
http://www.cyclegadg...t.asp?Item=SBRM
Mick
Houston, Tx
'00 VFR800FI
http://www.hal-pc.or...m/mtrcycle.html
#10
Posted 19 April 2008 - 12:49 PM
Trace, on Apr 18 2008, 07:55 AM, said:
1) be able to peer above your instrument panel (so that it's looking down the road, not at a printed circuit board and electronical stuff that blocks radar)
2) be pointed just a very few degrees down, or at least perfectly level.
The top of virtually every tank bag will put the radar detector above the instrument panel, so the detector won't be blocked. Also, the antennas in the V1 are not all that sensitive to vertical angle, so anything reasonable close to level will work fine. (Of course, the rear antenna of the V1 is going to be blocked by the rider unless you mount the detector outside the fairing.)
I've used this setup for 5+ years and almost 40,000 miles, and have never missed a radar trap. (I wish I could say the same thing about unmarked patrol cars...)

#11
Posted 19 April 2008 - 02:13 PM
hlf, on Apr 19 2008, 01:49 PM, said:
I'm not disputing your success, as it's clear that you have your rig properly scienced-out. But it IS sensitive to vertical angle, particulary laser. On this I'm quite positive. Not totally sensitive, for sure, but wouldn't you agree that is indeed to your advantage to have the thing level or slightly down? Might as well maximize your chances, eh?
And when it's in the tankbag, I'd say it has zero chances of picking up laser. Zero. Zip. Nada. Nothing. Ain't hap'n.
My point is making the point is that sooooo many people don't realize that you can't have the detector pointing towards the sky and expect it to perform very well. Walk through any parking lot and look at all the dectors pointing UP on the cars there. This indicates to me that most folks don't realize it's an issue....probably including most bikers, too.
As for a tall-enough tankbag......it is what it is. I use a JR Manta most of the time, which isn't tall at all. So sure, if your tank bag is tall, and you do a good job of having the detector pointing forward as you seem to have done, it's all good. I just didn't want someone to think they can toss a detector in a tankbag and tear off down the highway without a second thought.
Anyway, food-for-thought for all you potential detector users out there, FWIW.
#12
Posted 21 April 2008 - 11:26 AM
If you always do what you always have done, you will always get what you have always gotten.


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