[hoozel]

veefer800canuck, on Jul 2 2008, 11:09 AM, said:

hoozel, on Jul 2 2008, 09:12 AM, said:

ask and you shall receive.... these are old pics from first design, i will get some new ones soon. oops wait cant post em. must have to donate to site. i have pics on other forums as well a Dyno sheet from old design on the edmonton sport riderz forum.

Must upload pics to your gallery first, helpfile:

http://www.vfrdiscus...p...E=01&HID=17

Then insert in post using the gallery posting tool:

http://www.vfrdiscus...p...E=01&HID=18

ahh got it thanks man !



Front side view.jpg


side fairing.jpg


mild tune super.jpg

Its sporting the PC3 with a Multi Hub hooked into a GM3 bar Map, and Ignition Module. Wideband Commander to go in soon with LCD interface.
This dyno was done with Ignition retarding quite heavily, the tuner was scared to dyno it, he didnt have much experience with a Blower. So it is extremely rich and ignition retarded till we could finish the redesign. I will post new pics and the new Dyno after Friday the 4th.

This post has been edited by hoozel: 02 July 2008 - 12:37 PM

[hoozel]

Baileyrock, on Jul 2 2008, 01:06 PM, said:

veefer800canuck, on Jul 2 2008, 02:00 PM, said:

That's wild man. You'll be putting out more HP than the WSB bikes do!

And the bottom end will be spectacular.

I don't know, with only 105 HP at 7k it might be a little sluggish.

Just what I need, a GSXR 1k with more power!

here's my 2001 stroked GSXR1000 before we added Cams, vs a Stock 2005 GSXR1000. For comparison.

stock 2005 GSXR1000 vs a Stroked 2001 GSXR1000

[toro1]

Nice job Tyler. I forget, are you running a C15-60 on there? The reason I ask is that you are very close to maxing the blower out if that is indeed the model. I can't wait to see what you come up with after the next dyno session.

I'm helping out another one of calisuperbike's customers now; he's got a ZX-10R and actually got shafted worse than you. Let's just hope his turns out as well as yours did.

[hoozel]

toro1, on Jul 2 2008, 03:54 PM, said:

Nice job Tyler. I forget, are you running a C15-60 on there? The reason I ask is that you are very close to maxing the blower out if that is indeed the model. I can't wait to see what you come up with after the next dyno session.

I'm helping out another one of calisuperbike's customers now; he's got a ZX-10R and actually got shafted worse than you. Let's just hope his turns out as well as yours did.

Yes i beleive it is the C15-60. Thanks so much for helping out with advice. Its really good of you to take the time to help us out. Yeah,maybe one day i will catch up with Jason Keats. he even scammed a guy a complete bike, that guy pressed charges i heard. might be why the website is now down. Man that guy could sure sell. what got me was that articale in Super Streetbike magazine. I was like, well he made it into a magazine he has to be trustworthy and must have a good product..... umm no.

Once again i would have never got it done without your advice and a couple local turbo guys.

[toro1]

Okay, if you find out that you can't pull any more power out of your bike, it's probably time to upgrade the supercharger to a C30 series. The blower is beyond its limit, as can be seen from the dyno graph where it maxes out at 11,500. Even if you keep the same boost ratio, just by stepping up to the C30-74 you'll see substantial power increases due to much increased efficiency and breathing room of the supercharger, and should put peak power somewhere in the 230-240 range, and peak boost just under 9psi. If you choose to increase the boost to say, 12psi max, then the power jumps to over 260, maybe even approaching 275 under the right conditions. Whoa mama.

[hoozel]

veefer800canuck, on Jul 3 2008, 08:53 AM, said:

dOOd, If I weren't married with children, I'd be all over the SC kit.

Ok here is some pics of the Second Gen design, we did lots of work customizing the fairings to fit. It now looks like a stock bike almost.... except the blower area had to be cut out. So i am gonna need dome custom fiberglass work.

here is the headers reshaped and moved over so we could get a propper intake on it, run over to the other side for cool fresh air.

Closeup of header and Radiator.JPG


Left side with Intake all ceramic coated.

Close up of Intake.JPG


Top down view of Intercooler and blowoff valve.

Top down view intercooler.JPG

[hoozel]

I have come across a problem though. as the wheel lifts into the air, which it does quite a bit now. I found out that the Blue cap on the Oil resevoir no matter how tight you have it, is not sealed. it is a breather cap, so oil likes to flow over everything..lol. yeah bike was smoking all of a sudden, I got off and went "uh oh this is gonna be expensive" ! but it turned out to be the traction fluid. So we are gonna need a machined cap that is sealed with a nipple in the top, attach a breather line and run that to a higher point, maybe up front with dash or something. If you can come up with a cap, i will for sure wire you money for one. I have lost my machining contact. lol.

[toro1]

The mods look good.

As for the breather cap, even though I oftentimes also have a "light" front end, I never have oil come out. You need no more than for the reservoir to be half full -- is your filled more than that? If so, take some of that fluid out of there and see how it works.

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dOOd, If I weren't married with children, I'd be all over the SC kit.

Rob, just start saving a penny here and a $100 bill there, and it'll add up in no time.

[Veefer800Canuck]

tok tokkie, on Jul 4 2008, 04:02 AM, said:

veefer800canuck, on Jul 3 2008, 04:53 PM, said:

dOOd, If I weren't married with children, I'd be all over the SC kit.

There was a guy on a local board who was in a similar predicament. He posted a thread titled "Can I mow your lawn?" Rob you will have to take on some additional gainful employ to finance this project. Posted more in jest than seriousness.

Oh believe me, I make enough money, I easily could find the funding by deferring something. Heck, I'm spending about 15 grand redoing the kitchen this year. Got no car payments, no credit card bills (oops, forgot, I do owe 815 bucks on my new snowblower, but that'll be done in December), house will be paid off at the end of August, etc.

It's just that the basic understanding as to why I NEED this sort of a mod is way beyond her capability to understand.


You know all those cool hardcover coffee table books they sell on superbikeplanet.com? Like Valentino Rossi's autobiography, "What if I had never tried"? And Julian Ryder's "MotpGP In camera"? Yeah, those type of books I'd like to get for my birthday, or maybe Christmas? You know, those books I don't have, and never will get, unless I buy them myself and get heck for spending our family's money on?


Oh yeah, did I mention that she is allowed to do absolutely anything on the planet that isn't illegal or immoral? Just that she doesn't choose to do (insert activity here). Not my fault. :shrugs:


Cheaper than a new bike anyhow, right?

[hoozel]

Well after custom tuning, which was delayed by a faulty fuel pump. I drove 350kms with no fuel pressure, lucky i had laptop and i richened it up huge. So with big 35lb injectors and me adjusting it, i hobbled into town at about 110kmh. Max speed. lol. So he spent day diagnosing instead of tuning, and said fuel pump bad. So mechanic found me a 50PSI pump replaced it for me. he then removed the Secondary Butterflies and proceeded to tune it. Now new problem came up. there was no reason to have big injectors stock ones would have flown enough fuel with only 6-8psi, he said you can squish the stock regulator, and they would probly be fine. I think because a GSXR1000 has 2 sets of injectors and the Shower ones only come on at the top 25%. So the stock would have been fine. oh well. So it is runing like ass in the bottom end, and kinda surges. But oh my god does it have power. 4th 5th 6th feel like 3rd gear. the accelleration is nuts. It put down about 205hp. Mechanic said its got another 15hp or so, but he said to keep it rich for safety. I have no problem with that, its more power than i can handle anyway. I will post the dyno sheet soon. Mechanic is a skilled Tuner with Boost and just Motor mods. James works for Walt Healy's in Calgary AB, and is the crewchief for Ethan Barkley a Champion Drag racer up here in Canada. they are running a 400+hp GSXR1000. its pretty insane. EBSPEED.com.

This post has been edited by hoozel: 17 July 2008 - 12:34 PM

[PAW]

We are all itching to get our hands on this project. BUT how would we all feel if Dan had rushed the project just to pacify our cravings for the kit . He needed the time to sort out the gremlins not only in the hardware department but the other side being paperwork, shipping schedules, patents, blue prints etc, which would leave us to find that parts are not up to the job or the BHP rating is much lower than predicted. It takes time to create a great malt. Dan has spent the last 2+ years of his life designing and testing this project to create not just another bolt on blower but a methodically engineered work of art. It takes a person with great vision, skill and determination to pull off such an idea as this originally was.

The positive blogs from all you guys have been great to read and will only inspire him to keep on perfecting the kit to a point when he has reached perfection and we will all reap in the bountiful rewards. So, keep taking the patience pills a little while longer and really look forward to the launch.

[toro1]

What's that saying again, "good things come to those who wait?"


Let's just say that when the time is right, a whole slew of information will become available. In the meantime, though, I can tell you that the bike is running better than ever...


...way better than ever

[black06vfr]

didit, on Sep 15 2008, 08:07 AM, said:

toro1, on Sep 15 2008, 06:48 AM, said:

What's that saying again, "good things come to those who wait?"

Good things come to those who wait . . . . . but only what's left behind by those who hustle!

Believe me, we are all abaited breath for what you have in store for us. Your attention to detail and perfectionist ways will serve to a great, reliable product.

Now finish and share your toys

Figured I would stop by and give this thread a :bump: It hasn't seen any action in the last twelve days. I am slowing putting the money away for one of these kits for the sixth gen when it comes out that is. I don't think that there should be that many adjustments for VTEC as there are many boosted Honda civics out there with VTEC.

This post has been edited by black06vfr: 27 September 2008 - 07:13 PM

[magellan]

black06vfr, on Sep 27 2008, 05:13 PM, said:

didit, on Sep 15 2008, 08:07 AM, said:

toro1, on Sep 15 2008, 06:48 AM, said:

What's that saying again, "good things come to those who wait?"

Good things come to those who wait . . . . . but only what's left behind by those who hustle!

Believe me, we are all abaited breath for what you have in store for us. Your attention to detail and perfectionist ways will serve to a great, reliable product.

Now finish and share your toys

Figured I would stop by and give this thread a :bump: It hasn't seen any action in the last twelve days. I am slowing putting the money away for one of these kits for the sixth gen when it comes out that is. I don't think that there should be that many adjustments for VTEC as there are many boosted Honda civics out there with VTEC.

VTEC on Civics is completely different than on the bikes. The way the VTEC kicks in on a 6th gen radically changes breathing. Therefore any SC kit will have to be tuned accordingly. Dyno tuning 100% required.

[Silver#788]

I am still excite to see this come together. I placed my name on the board #2 in line as production starts a long time ago. I am sure it is worth the wait. Magellan Is going to be the lead installer with me trying to help and getting in the way. PM me when your ready for my shipping info. You are the man!

[black06vfr]

magellan, on Sep 28 2008, 07:29 PM, said:

black06vfr, on Sep 27 2008, 05:13 PM, said:

didit, on Sep 15 2008, 08:07 AM, said:

toro1, on Sep 15 2008, 06:48 AM, said:

What's that saying again, "good things come to those who wait?"

Good things come to those who wait . . . . . but only what's left behind by those who hustle!

Believe me, we are all abaited breath for what you have in store for us. Your attention to detail and perfectionist ways will serve to a great, reliable product.

Now finish and share your toys

Figured I would stop by and give this thread a :bump: It hasn't seen any action in the last twelve days. I am slowing putting the money away for one of these kits for the sixth gen when it comes out that is. I don't think that there should be that many adjustments for VTEC as there are many boosted Honda civics out there with VTEC.

VTEC on Civics is completely different than on the bikes. The way the VTEC kicks in on a 6th gen radically changes breathing. Therefore any SC kit will have to be tuned accordingly. Dyno tuning 100% required.

I have no doubt your right, but the VTEC on the bike isn't all that different from the cars. It's actually a simplier system, but you should look at this video. If you have ridden a sixth gen it may sound familiar.
http://www.youtube.c...feature=related

[BaileyRock]

purging now!

[FotoMoto]

toro1, on Sep 15 2008, 08:48 AM, said:

What's that saying again, "good things come to those who wait?"


Let's just say that when the time is right, a whole slew of information will become available. In the meantime, though, I can tell you that the bike is running better than ever...


...way better than ever

I don't have a dog in this fight (4gen); however, the "V" word is beginning to form on the tip of my tongue but...... I haven't said it!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware

Specifically, the last two sentences in the first paragraph: "However, most vaporware would not be considered a hoax since the makers have a genuine intention to create their product, even if it ultimately never materializes. Products with unspecified release dates or long development times that outwardly demonstrate regular, verifiable progress in production are not normally labeled vaporware."

[Chev]

FotoMoto, on Oct 21 2008, 01:28 PM, said:

I don't have a dog in this fight (4gen); however, the "V" word is beginning to form on the tip of my tongue but...... I haven't said it!

Knowing what little I know about the US patent office, just that alone could take some serious time. Although, I know hearing that would probably rest the worried minds.

I'm very patient in my interest, since I have 147 other projects moneypits to tackle before I think about hoping for a ToroCharger for my 6th gen.

[toro1]

FotoMoto, on Oct 21 2008, 03:28 PM, said:

Vaporware

Hardly my friend. I just don't think it's fair to you guys to string along bits of information or product shots until I have truly concrete pricing or production details.

However, since this thread has been updated, now might be a good time to judge current interest, so...


If you have a 5th-gen VFR and would be legitimately interested in purchasing a supercharger kit, please send me a PM indicating your intent.



--Dan

[SEBSPEED]

Well now, how's that for progress?

[JES_VFR]

What is a kidney worth again?

[johnandhis93]

what are you looking at for the cost of the kit and what would it cost to ship to the UK?

[toro1]

johnandhis93, on Nov 8 2008, 02:40 PM, said:

what are you looking at for the cost of the kit and what would it cost to ship to the UK?

I'm working on the final pricing now. With close to 100 different components in the kit, it's no easy task.

[SEBSPEED]

I'm curious to know, after all the heckling, how many people PM'ed you to confirm a purchase?

[VFR4Lee]

Wish I could afford it. Would make an awesome bike.

[toro1]

SEBSPEED, on Nov 9 2008, 06:16 PM, said:

I'm curious to know, after all the heckling, how many people PM'ed you to confirm a purchase?

Enough to do a production run...

[CrazyInNYC]

toro1, on Nov 11 2008, 08:42 PM, said:

SEBSPEED, on Nov 9 2008, 06:16 PM, said:

I'm curious to know, after all the heckling, how many people PM'ed you to confirm a purchase?

Enough to do a production run...

Hey, that's great news!

[VifferDude]

How long aprox 'till we see a 6th Gen ToroCharger?. If you don't mind me asking?. I'll have about $6000 at the end of January

[toro1]

VifferDude, on Nov 11 2008, 11:11 PM, said:

How long aprox 'till we see a 6th Gen ToroCharger?. If you don't mind me asking?. I'll have about $6000 at the end of January

Hmm, I don't even want to hazard a guess on that one. If the 2 bikes are as similar as I think they are, not long. I'll just need to borrow someone's 6th-gen for a while.

Let's see how the 5th-gen kit works out first.