It Is Now Time For Some Serious Modifications... Supercharger Kits are here!
#123
Posted 02 March 2009 - 11:43 AM
Snakeman, on Mar 2 2009, 09:04 AM, said:
THAT IS FREAKING AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!! I need me one of those for sure. But how is going to be at higher elevations? Maybe you should come to the Denver/Dillion meet in Aug to show us and test it's performance at the higher elevations.
Didn't you know? The beautiful thing this FI is that it does not suffer altitude losses like NA applications. Sure, you may lose a few hp but not enough for the butt dyno to notice.
Seriously, I don't want a new VFR (unless they shave off some serious weight and still keep sport + tourability) . I want my Torocharged 6th Gen.
Edit: I have no affiliation with Toro or his company. I am just very excited about seeing this fine piece of work mounted to my VFR.
2002 Honda VFRA
Mods: Paint scheme - Pair block off - Flapper deactivated - 02 Sensor Mod - Stebel Nautilus - Evap Can removed - VFRness


Mods: Paint scheme - Pair block off - Flapper deactivated - 02 Sensor Mod - Stebel Nautilus - Evap Can removed - VFRness
#124
Posted 02 March 2009 - 11:55 AM
vanion2, on Mar 2 2009, 09:43 AM, said:
Snakeman, on Mar 2 2009, 09:04 AM, said:
THAT IS FREAKING AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!! I need me one of those for sure. But how is going to be at higher elevations? Maybe you should come to the Denver/Dillion meet in Aug to show us and test it's performance at the higher elevations.
Didn't you know? The beautiful thing this FI is that it does not suffer altitude losses like NA applications. Sure, you may lose a few hp but not enough for the butt dyno to notice.
Seriously, I don't want a new VFR (unless they shave off some serious weight and still keep sport + tourability) . I want my Torocharged 6th Gen.
Edit: I have no affiliation with Toro or his company. I am just very excited about seeing this fine piece of work mounted to my VFR.
Thats what I thought but wanted to make sure. I still think he should come out for the Dillion meet in Colorado in aug and show it off.


#125
Posted 02 March 2009 - 01:52 PM
Absolutely lovely. If I had the money right now, BAM! Cheaper than a new bike for sure.
Unf, I just bought $11,000 + of my company's stock today inside my RRSP. Not nearly as fun as a supercharger though.
It's at a 52 week low, $6.32 per share, so I think that's a good buy, and it helps me offset my capital gains for 2008 as today is the last day for RRSP contributions to apply against 2008 earnings.
Whatever became of the intercooler idea? Not enough room on the bike? Plumbing nightmare?
Unf, I just bought $11,000 + of my company's stock today inside my RRSP. Not nearly as fun as a supercharger though.
It's at a 52 week low, $6.32 per share, so I think that's a good buy, and it helps me offset my capital gains for 2008 as today is the last day for RRSP contributions to apply against 2008 earnings.
Whatever became of the intercooler idea? Not enough room on the bike? Plumbing nightmare?
Rob McKinnon
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#126
Posted 02 March 2009 - 02:53 PM
Thanks for the compliments everybody.
I know the 6th-gen guys are wondering when their kit will arrive -- it's coming. I need to get the 5th-gen kits up and going first, and then the 6th-gen will come in and we'll adapt a kit to it. The bikes are very similar so it shouldn't take too long to make the necessary changes. If you are a 6th-gen owner in the PA area and would like to be a guinea pig, let me know.
Rob, the intercooler idea is still alive (the kit was indeed designed for it), but yes, there is not much room and it is a plumbing nightmare. The biggest drawback is the expense; that is, how many people would be willing to spend an extra $1k-$1.5k for a 10-15hp increase when the kit already puts out 160whp? If that answer is quite a few people, then I'll put it into production. It really does run quite nicely though on regular pump gas, and if extended boost situations arise (racing, long dyno sessions), then some octane boost or a little racing gas will prevent any detonation/pre-ignition from occurring.
I know the 6th-gen guys are wondering when their kit will arrive -- it's coming. I need to get the 5th-gen kits up and going first, and then the 6th-gen will come in and we'll adapt a kit to it. The bikes are very similar so it shouldn't take too long to make the necessary changes. If you are a 6th-gen owner in the PA area and would like to be a guinea pig, let me know.
veefer800canuck, on Mar 2 2009, 01:52 PM, said:
Whatever became of the intercooler idea? Not enough room on the bike? Plumbing nightmare?
Rob, the intercooler idea is still alive (the kit was indeed designed for it), but yes, there is not much room and it is a plumbing nightmare. The biggest drawback is the expense; that is, how many people would be willing to spend an extra $1k-$1.5k for a 10-15hp increase when the kit already puts out 160whp? If that answer is quite a few people, then I'll put it into production. It really does run quite nicely though on regular pump gas, and if extended boost situations arise (racing, long dyno sessions), then some octane boost or a little racing gas will prevent any detonation/pre-ignition from occurring.
#128
Posted 02 March 2009 - 03:19 PM
Good job on producing a quality kit... I'm promoting your Liter Eater mod in Speedzilla... STN and Sac Crotch
Rockets... but you never mentioned how much it all weights???
Rockets... but you never mentioned how much it all weights???
Larry L
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90 RC30 #44
VFR PEG LOWERING BLOCKS
http://www.vfrdiscus...showtopic=44940
Have a wheelie NICE day...
Lean & Mean it in every corner of your life...
If it wasn't for us the fast lane would rust...
V4'S are music to the seat of my pants...
1952 De Havilland Chipmunk...
Yank and bank your brains loose...
http://members.ebay....aboutme/-xlax-/
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#130
Posted 02 March 2009 - 03:43 PM
Nice work Dan!!!
Would you please start a New Thread for your Kits and just link this one for anyone who wants history. This one is huge and time consuming to find the nitty gritty.
Thanks
BR
Would you please start a New Thread for your Kits and just link this one for anyone who wants history. This one is huge and time consuming to find the nitty gritty.
Thanks
BR
"If everything seems under control, your just not going fast enough" Mario Andretti
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#131
Posted 02 March 2009 - 04:09 PM
Wow. It's done! Awesome! 
Maybe I'll win the lottery before the 6th gen kit comes out!
Maybe I'll win the lottery before the 6th gen kit comes out!
Sebastian - **Yankee Railer**
1983 VF750F 2,997 original miles, undergoing full hot-rod restoration- K&N, Accel coils & wires, Megacycle Stage 1 cams, jetted, Works shock, CBR F2 wheels, VF1000R forks, RaceTech Gold Valve Emulators, Sonic 1.0 springs, Chevy S-10 'clear' headlight, fender chop, Maier dark smoke screen, Vance and Hines full 2-2 system, 96 VFR clip ons, much more in the works!
1986 VFR700F streetfighter 900RR forks w/ Racetech .90's, LSL top triple w/ dirtbike bars, CBR F3 front wheel, 900RR rear wheel, Fox Twin Clicker, K&N, jetted, Micron 4-2-1, Duc 1098 tail, lots of one-off stuff coming
198x VF500F in pieces... parts for sale! PM for info!
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1996 VFR750 31k miles, K&N, otherwise stock - FOR SALE SOON!
2001 CBR600F4i 10,700mi, SOLD, almost gone!!
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1983 VF750F 2,997 original miles, undergoing full hot-rod restoration- K&N, Accel coils & wires, Megacycle Stage 1 cams, jetted, Works shock, CBR F2 wheels, VF1000R forks, RaceTech Gold Valve Emulators, Sonic 1.0 springs, Chevy S-10 'clear' headlight, fender chop, Maier dark smoke screen, Vance and Hines full 2-2 system, 96 VFR clip ons, much more in the works!
1986 VFR700F streetfighter 900RR forks w/ Racetech .90's, LSL top triple w/ dirtbike bars, CBR F3 front wheel, 900RR rear wheel, Fox Twin Clicker, K&N, jetted, Micron 4-2-1, Duc 1098 tail, lots of one-off stuff coming
198x VF500F in pieces... parts for sale! PM for info!
1996 VFR750 secret project...
1996 VFR750 31k miles, K&N, otherwise stock - FOR SALE SOON!
2001 CBR600F4i 10,700mi, SOLD, almost gone!!
2005 VFR800 Sargent seat, NEP throttle lock, Symtec heated grips, Powerlet, DIY fender eliminator, oem hard bags, modded passenger pegs, Garmin Nuvi 750, Ohlins 46DRS, .90 RaceTech fork springs, Staintunes, Rivcyko double secret probation CF hugger, CF Bug Buster, UNI filter mod, PC3 USB w/ Cozye's map, coming soon - RaceTech Gold Valves, catless headers, &...
***Bailey-san sez, zip-tie a rim protector to your HF bar on your HF changer to keep from scratcha rim***

#132
Posted 02 March 2009 - 04:11 PM
Whoa, that is cool! Nice work from start to finish, pre-planning to fit and finish to the YouTube vid. I think a few guys will purchase!
160hp??!! Wow!
160hp??!! Wow!
#134
Posted 02 March 2009 - 04:52 PM
Wow! When the 6th gen kit comes out, I'm on board for sure! As fast as my money is loosing value, I may as well spend it while it's still worth something!
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#135
Posted 02 March 2009 - 04:53 PM
Before the "new" thread begins I have a question: Is the boost on the pulley fixed? Or is it possible to bring it down a bit?
Basically I am thinking 50-60 hp would be too much for what I need. Yes, I want one but I don't do wheelies or race squids. I just want my bike to accelerate like my R6 used to as it always made me smile. For her weight I think 20-30 hp would be more than enough. Just curious mind you. I know that would probably mean a new pulley or even a smaller SC but since you haven't started on the 6th gens yet I figured I would ask.
Basically I am thinking 50-60 hp would be too much for what I need. Yes, I want one but I don't do wheelies or race squids. I just want my bike to accelerate like my R6 used to as it always made me smile. For her weight I think 20-30 hp would be more than enough. Just curious mind you. I know that would probably mean a new pulley or even a smaller SC but since you haven't started on the 6th gens yet I figured I would ask.
2002 Honda VFRA
Mods: Paint scheme - Pair block off - Flapper deactivated - 02 Sensor Mod - Stebel Nautilus - Evap Can removed - VFRness


Mods: Paint scheme - Pair block off - Flapper deactivated - 02 Sensor Mod - Stebel Nautilus - Evap Can removed - VFRness
#137
Posted 02 March 2009 - 05:36 PM
Even better than expected (and I think we can all agree, Toro set the bar pretty high from day one - but he has wildly exceeded any expectations).
Looking forward to seeing a few of these beasts roll out over the next few months
(and FWIW, I'd be happy to see a portion of my VFRD donation go towards a "Blow Slammers 5th Gen" fund
, he sure does a lot for us with this site)
Looking forward to seeing a few of these beasts roll out over the next few months
(and FWIW, I'd be happy to see a portion of my VFRD donation go towards a "Blow Slammers 5th Gen" fund

Sorry baby, but I had to crash that Honda
#138
Posted 02 March 2009 - 05:45 PM
All right, That looks great.
Now I just have to sell a bunch of stuff, each cans of tuna for a few months and decide which kidney I really don't need.
Seriously, I'm there Dan and you know it. I was hooked just from the day I was out chasing after you.
I just have to pull the $ together.
Now I just have to sell a bunch of stuff, each cans of tuna for a few months and decide which kidney I really don't need.
Seriously, I'm there Dan and you know it. I was hooked just from the day I was out chasing after you.
I just have to pull the $ together.
JohnS
Forging my body in the fires of my will
Forging my body in the fires of my will
#140
Posted 02 March 2009 - 07:54 PM
So i guess i need to sell my 6th gen and find me a mint 5th gen.
Toro how much installed?
BTW nice vid,loved the dyno pass and the WOT camera pass.Gave me the goose bumps.That thing sounds MEAN.
Toro how much installed?
BTW nice vid,loved the dyno pass and the WOT camera pass.Gave me the goose bumps.That thing sounds MEAN.
This post has been edited by VFR02abs: 02 March 2009 - 07:56 PM
02 ABS Red for now,Remus carbon exhaust,K&N,ProGrip 717,Puig racing screen.
#142
Posted 03 March 2009 - 01:56 AM
RE-Agent, on Mar 2 2009, 02:59 PM, said:
How about a VFRD Torocharger raffle for the first kit. 
I think HS should win a kit... after all... it's his site that host the effort...
Larry L
94 RC45 #2
90 RC30 #44
VFR PEG LOWERING BLOCKS
http://www.vfrdiscus...showtopic=44940
Have a wheelie NICE day...
Lean & Mean it in every corner of your life...
If it wasn't for us the fast lane would rust...
V4'S are music to the seat of my pants...
1952 De Havilland Chipmunk...
Yank and bank your brains loose...
http://members.ebay....aboutme/-xlax-/
http://home.comcast.net/~netters2/
http://www.fox302.co...g&user=netters2
http://www.flickr.co...s/10503451@N07/
Busy Little Shop Photo Gallery
94 RC45 #2
90 RC30 #44
VFR PEG LOWERING BLOCKS
http://www.vfrdiscus...showtopic=44940
Have a wheelie NICE day...
Lean & Mean it in every corner of your life...
If it wasn't for us the fast lane would rust...
V4'S are music to the seat of my pants...
1952 De Havilland Chipmunk...
Yank and bank your brains loose...
http://members.ebay....aboutme/-xlax-/
http://home.comcast.net/~netters2/
http://www.fox302.co...g&user=netters2
http://www.flickr.co...s/10503451@N07/
Busy Little Shop Photo Gallery
#143
Posted 03 March 2009 - 03:58 AM
BusyLittleShop, on Mar 3 2009, 12:56 AM, said:
I couldn't help but to burst out into maniacal laughter when I saw that dyno chart. Damn. I want one so badly, but there's no way I could scrape up that kind of money any time soon. Someday I will have one though. Just as soon as I can justify spending as much on a mod as I did the bike itself. Well, more actually...
#145
Posted 03 March 2009 - 08:46 AM
Seeing as how this thread has now run the complete gamut from prototype design to production kit, I have decided to close it.
Fear not, for the latest news & discussion, please check out the following thread:
5th-Gen '98-'01 Supercharger Kit
As more information becomes available for the 6th-gen kit, I will update this post.
--Dan
A&A Performance
Fear not, for the latest news & discussion, please check out the following thread:
5th-Gen '98-'01 Supercharger Kit
As more information becomes available for the 6th-gen kit, I will update this post.
--Dan
A&A Performance

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